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On 12/17/2023 at 9:18 AM, h8r said:
youve stated repeatedly, youve moved on.
so let it go, get over it, move on,
I have moved on. That being said. When you put 9 years of your life into something you kinda become attached to it. I’ll still be working there. Have to see it and live it daily. If you truly can’t understand that. It was more than just a job.
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I will say this for myself. I am a coach who had to find a way to teach. In my opinion you must be on campus to be an effective head coach. You need to be able to mingle, see the students, recruit the halls. Be there for the students in their time of need. If you are not a teacher or a district employee. How can you be in the halls all day. I teach Auto shop. Im not a college educated educator, who has never been outside the walls. I have seen what reality looks like. I have coached kids from 4years old up. I have dedicated my life to coaching. I really enjoy teaching automotive technology to my students. But the main reason I am there is to be a coach! Unfortunately it also hampers my ability to coach at every school. Only a very few have automotive.
But to answer the question originally asked. If I was an AD. What would I look for in a head coach.
1. Why did you leave your previous job? (If this is your first time as a head coach, why do you think you are ready to make that leap. This will involve a whole different set of added questions) (is this an upward career move? Were you fired? why? )
2. How long were you at your previous job? (do you move around a lot. Can I count on you staying to build/rebuild a program. Or will you be jumping ship for the next latest greatest. Towards your career advancement)
3. What is your vision for this program? (Have you done your research, Do you know the community, do you know the accolades and the pitfalls of the program. Demographics, are these kids you can work with and make successful? )
4. What do you bring to the table? (What sets you apart from all other applicants, What skills or accolades do you have that would make you the best candidate for the job?)
5. Can you assemble a staff? ( who do you know, what is your plan to put coaches in place. Cannot be just rehire the previous staff. But retaining some or all of them could be a benefit if they are good at what they do!
6. How do you handle off season work outs? (what was the prior participation, can you maintain or improve the participation? How will you achieve that? )
7. fundraising!, program budget. (if the coach doesn't ask these questions there may be a big problem, As we all know football programs are not funded by districts, What is your plan, past experience and researched goals for the new program. )
8. Recruiting? ( what have you done, college contacts? how many kids from your previous place obtained scholarships? )
I will continue to edit this post as more thoughts come to mind
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So the Poinciana head coach job goes to Tayron Mallard. 25 years old. He was a high school OC for 6 games. This was his first full season as a high school football coach. He volunteered the year before part time. No disrespect to him. But I fail to see how he is ready to take on a high school football program as a head coach. In my humble opinion, the inner workings of a football program go so much deeper than the on field part. He is an alumni and I was told that he knew the kids and that was the reason for his hire.
Again, absolutely no disrespect to him. I truly hope he is successful in continuing what I had started.
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Can anyone actually tell me what was decided? From what I got was. 7 classes + 1 rural. And all teams are required to play district games. There was no mention of how many weeks. Will it be a 8 game over 9 weeks. And 2 week district playoffs and everyone else is left to scramble to fill in their last 2 games. Or is it 10 games over 11 weeks and districts like now. So if this was supposed to let coaches schedule games. I feel something is still missing. Or I just missed it within all of the cross discussions they were having
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Much appreciated. It was a good run cut too short, unfortunately! Like I said people make decisions. I can only comply. I do not hang my head in shame as I still truly feel I did nothing that should have cost me the job. I did fight for my players with administration. I will never back down when it is for the good of the kid. After all thats what its all about.
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19 minutes ago, Longtime Observer said:
Lake Minneola-Wiregrass has the makings of a shootout with video game numbers. LM probably has a bit more "raw material" and gets the win. I'll say 49-45.
Im going to be at that game.! looks to be a good one
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11 hours ago, CoachK850 said:
Coach check your inbox
Done, Thanks
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1 hour ago, Nulli Secundus said:
Although valid, glad you have a sense of humor!
I just hope what I did there doesn't go to waste. I have moved on to the next chapter. Gave everything I could to that program. Now time to spend that same effort at a place where I will hopefully be appreciated.
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Add Poinciana to that list!
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21 hours ago, badbird said:
A few kids threw punches, that should be mandatory 6 weeks. Our best soccer player last year got 12 games for blowing a kiss to a player and they made him miss the entire soccer playoffs. Lakeland and Kathleen have a brawl and they get 1 or 2 games. HMMMMM looks like a certain school has some pull with the FHSAA and Lakeland won't have a tough game until round 3 and they magically get all their players back. Super SUS
I have nothing against Lakeland and respect their program and will root for them to win it all. I just hate the inconsistencies with the FHSAA. No one knows the formula for rankings and then magically we are going to let all these players back for the important games but hammer other schools for the same thing.
A couple of years ago I had a kid get jumped by a player, 5-6 of the opposing teams players ran on the field without helmets, from their sideline to help beat up our player. Guess who was the only player to receive a penalty. Ours, he got 6 weeks for fighting. The official who threw the flag has been banned from officiating at our school! Well their school now! I even warned the white cap before this happened that the game was about to get out of control and he needed to do something about it.
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On 11/6/2023 at 2:29 PM, nolebull813 said:
@Beek This could be the Lord telling you that all you did at Poinciana is done, and your ministry and leadership is needed elsewhere. I have no doubt in my mind you will land on your feet somewhere that will greatly benefit from having you. Keep your head clear and make sure to stick with the high road because you don’t want anything coming back to bite you when emotions are at an all time high. Good luck with everything coach.
https://www.aroundosceola.com/sports/beeken-removed-poinciana-football-coach
The Lord did find me a place to go! with Brad Lord at Southlake! Go EAGLES!
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7 hours ago, nolebull813 said:
@Beek This could be the Lord telling you that all you did at Poinciana is done, and your ministry and leadership is needed elsewhere. I have no doubt in my mind you will land on your feet somewhere that will greatly benefit from having you. Keep your head clear and make sure to stick with the high road because you don’t want anything coming back to bite you when emotions are at an all time high. Good luck with everything coach.
Already landed on my feet. In less than 4 hours I found a new home! Wont be the head coach, but titles do not mean much to me anyway. I know I can make a difference where ill be coaching.
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Today I was called in the office and was basically told " we want the program to head in a different direction" AKA your Fired!
I am not sure what direction that is? When I came to Poinciana this was a 0-10, 1-9, 2-8 program with kids always getting in trouble, grades were poor on average. Since I took over the program we went 4-6 my 1st season, best record since 2000. Covid happened still went 3-6 all the while managing to keep a JV program, where other schools couldnt. my 3rd year was the trying one. We had player issues, had to remove all of our seniors and went 1-9. Last season on the back of that we rebooted and set every record in school history. From points scored, to wins in a season, points against, Being the first head coach to ever stay there after the 3rd season. This year while being a little rocky we had our DC quit after week 2, other coaches stepped up and filled in the voids. We only went 4-6 this year also beating Liberty for the second year in a row, Something no other coach had done there. (we were also the first to beat Liberty). We also have raised the teams GPA to above a 3.0 and are keeping kids out of trouble. While Im not going to air out dirty laundry, because I could do a lot of that. I will say that I feel the true reason i was let go was I refuse to be a puppet and just follow along with everything. I fight for the kids and what I feel is right. I gave that school 9 years, planned on staying for a long time in the future. We see what loyalty has to do with things.
Added: By no means am I saying that everything I did was right. But everything I did was in my opinion for the betterment of the program. Did I make mistakes, sure, but who doesnt. Truly did not feel any mistakes I made were so egregious that it should have cost me the job.
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This is my uneducated understanding of what I think I read. Please help me with clarification.
1. Fhsaa will assign districts in 7 classes and 1 rural
2. teams in each district are not required to play each other
3. Fhsaa will use power rankings between the teams in each district to determine which 2 teams will play for the district championship.
4. teams would only schedule 9 games and have to wait to see who their week 11 opponent will be, then scramble to get a game if they arent chosen for playoffs. How is that going to look?
If what I understand above is correct, These are my assumptions or questions about this;
1. scheduling one or 2 top tier teams and loosing to them will keep your rankings high as opposed to playing middle of the road teams and beating them.
2. Teams with a weak schedule, could go 10-0 and not be considered for playoffs
3. teams with an average schedule could go 10-0 and not make the playoffs, where a team could schedule all top 10 type teams and loose to them and have a better shot?
4. how does this create parity?
5. Are the districts going to be announced early enough, so when scheduling is to be done this can be taken into account. As I was already working on my next season schedule. That way teams have a choice on who they play in and out of district, if they so choose?
6. this basically does away with independents. I would only think SSAC teams would opt out.
7. What happens if a team plays other teams in their district and beats them, but ends up with a lower power ranking. who then is the contender, head to head or power ranking?
I may have more questions, but this is my understanding as I read it. I could have read it wrong as well. Thanks for helping me understand.
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14 minutes ago, nolebull813 said:
It’s cool if it stays in house. That makes sense. The problem is stealing money from your school and giving it to other schools when you can be using it for your own programs non revenue sports.
Imagine telling your girls softball team or boys wrestling team you have no money to fund their sports because you have to give it to Liberty and Harmony.
I do get that as im also the head softball coach and used to be the head wrestling coach.
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Our AD takes all of the ticket money. That money does not go directly to the football program. It goes to all sports. But to be fair, all of every sports ticket money goes to all sports, (except for track and cross country, but im not 100% sure about that). The basic reason I was told is that it isnt fair for the "non spectator" sports, or where there is limited participation and gate to be punished and not be allowed to have the availability of all of the resources. So while it isnt fair to Football and basketball, which are the largest crowd drawing sports. I do see the potential good in this. But on the flip side. The school does supply (supposedly) everything we need to play football. But the school / AD is the judge on what we need and what is required. I will say so far I am fairly happy with the results of this policy. Our AD is doing the best she can with her given situation and the policy's that she follows. I cannot attest to if they are her policies or the county's.
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A Hillsborough county team has reached out to us about playing next season. So I believe that they are being allowed to play at least one out of county game next year.
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9 hours ago, nolebull813 said:
Do you have any bowl game opponents lined up? Maybe another independent team? Would you come to the Tampa area for a game?
Not as of yet. First we have to be bowl eligible!
We will have to see how our offense and defense are working friday night. Foundation Academy wont be easy!
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12 hours ago, AllOsceolaCountyFB said:
i think Poinciana got some of their swagger back last night, phenomenal game they played with some edge last night we haven't seen this year beat horizon 28-27
Much appreciated. That was the best game I have been involved in since I have been at Poinciana. Whether we won or lost that game last night the kids proved something to me. There was such selfless playing, we had Bowser, our best DB with his hand in the dirt! Our QB playing very injured, put together a winning drive when it counted most. We had senior edge rusher playing 1 tech. We had a what ever it takes attitude, which I have never seen from these or any Poinciana kids. The shake up in our staff was the spark they needed. They felt that they had something to prove.
I believe we have found our direction and purpose for this season. We still have some very tough games ahead, but In my opinion we can win out the season if we stay focused.
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Honestly , that was a very good observation. We have made some changes to our staff effective immediately.
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1 hour ago, h8r said:
thats hilairous! how many kids have left osceola and gone to poinciana? and why? reading above, its for playing time? so osceola back ups, 3rd teamers, go over to poinciana and help them win the most games in school history and it goes out that scheme and culture is changing, lol,
no you have studs come in and and know how to play and playing vs someone alot less talented on the other sideline so things are a bit simplier.
wow...
how many true poinciana kids are starters on the all 22? kids that were 9th, 10th,11th, 12th graders thru the system and not transfers from somewhere else?
Not going to get into a argument with you because your name says it all. Self reflection is the best thing of all. How many kids on osceolas team are zoned for osceola! How many of them were / are transfers? and secondly who really cares except for those who are trying to win a pointless argument. Every school has transfers. Its the wild west out there for high school transfers. If you are not happy somewhere go somewhere else. As for incoming transfers, yes Poinciana has had some. some of them were originally zoned for poinciana and just came back, A lot of our starters are Poinciana only students. Osceola has some transfers that are zoned for Poinciana. So why not hate on them!. You wont, because you can only have a one sided opinion. Osceola has transfers from all over. So does poinciana, so does everyone else. If you dont like that then fix the problem. But no one can do that. But do not attack us for what we are doing. We have finally stopped the bleeding of players and have become a destination for some kids looking for an opportunity to play. We have changed the culture. If you cant see that, take off your one sided glasses. We are not putting down anyone or any program. We are just making a difference. Every kid who wanted to go to the next level got an offer. We work hard getting kids in school. After all that is the point, not just winning games.
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7 hours ago, h8r said:
literally a poinciana coach, no chance someone just goes to nature coast to watch a game unless its a parent or a coach. fans of the the game would have went anywhere else. literally....
nice try on the fake name.....
This person is not on my staff or a parent of a player to my knowledge. I have never met this person and obviously wouldnt know him or her if I did. This person seemingly knows a lot about whats going on. Their interpretation and their opinion is theirs and should be respected just as anyone elses opinion on this board. For me, I like that someone is not just discounting our accomplishments and the quality of players on this team, just because of the past.
Strength of schedule does have to be taken into account. But Nature Coast was district Champion last year, went 2 rounds deep in the playoffs the year before. They are a quality opponent. Our schedule was made 2 years ago when we were 1-9. We were everyone's homecoming date!
We do lack on the line and that is what hurts us. I would put our skill against almost anyone and feel we can play a competitive game, if we dont make the same mistakes we did last week. We do not have the complete package, but we are working on it. But I refuse to believe that we arent on caliber to be in the top half of our counties teams.
Ill put this out now. Whoever is the district runner up for Osceola's district,(provided they dont get an at large invite) which is most of our counties teams. Play us in a bowl game provided we qualify! Then people can talk!
Last year we tried to play St. Cloud and TOHO for a bowl game, but couldnt get everything worked out due to an untimely hurricane!
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11 hours ago, AllOsceolaCountyFB said:
I made the trek out to nature coast to watch Poinciana play they looked physical fast but overall undersized their offense seemed overwhelmed with the size of nature coast, their offense sputtered but their defense kept them in the game after a blown coverage and a bad punt snap led to nature coats two first half scores, Akeem Knox is the real deal he is a FBS/FCS Caliber player, does not look like the same kid from last year at Osceola. Poinciana's offense lacked overall success when they tried to go vertical with the ball in pass game they were successful early in quick game should have stuck to it, but when the wheels fall off they fell off hard, coaches arguing with coaches , players arguing with players it turned ugly in the 4th quarter for the eagles, hopefully they can turn it around for Hardee in two weeks
As I stated earlier, was not a good look for us this week. We got out coached then some of the coaches behaved like children. Players emulate coaches. That behavior was unacceptable, from coaches or players. We have had extensive meetings and will fix the problems with the coaching staff or changes will be made. Cross coaching is the issue, when one part of the game is lacking everyone thinks they have the answer to fix it. Stay in your lane! Dont blame the other side of the ball.
We lack an offensive identity, we do not run any play very good. We need to get better in offensive cohesiveness. You will see some drastic changes there over the next couple of games, until we figure out who we are. That is what we will focus on before our next game.
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I will speak for Poinciana result last night. We lost 35-14. The score doesnt tell the whole story of the game. We were up 14-12 into the 4th quarter. Players made key mistakes, coaches made key mistakes. The blame is on the coaches, not the players. You play like you practice, and we didnt practice very well this week!
My hat is off to nature coast. they are physical and big up front. Thats where we lost the game. our O-line couldnt physically win the battle at the line. Our kids fought their hearts out, but they couldnt sustain the level of physicality that was required. Our defense played a real good game for the most part. Their 1st td was a total break down in coverage, where a player did not stay on assignment and had his eyes in the backfield. Such is life! We figured out that this was going to be a battle in the trenches, as nature coast has a big bruising running back. But we do too. Both of our td's came on the ground. We contained that big kid for 95% of the night. Defense played well. We just could not get the offence clicking the way it needed to. We faced too many 3rd and long. I wont complain about officiating, but it sure seemed to be one way only. Every time they needed a break, a penalty happened. every time we had a big gain, we had a penalty. Maybe we just only make timely mistakes. But that is still no excuse! We had some play calling issues that put our defense in a bad position, especially with a untimely mistake on special teams, giving them the ball inside the 10. That score isnt on the defense. That is on coaching. But coaches are human too.
Once they took the lead, they took a couple of shots into very well defended receivers and they got lucky, in my opinion. excellent effort on their kids and great coverage on ours, they just won the contested battle. In my opinion, as they didnt do this before they had the lead, those attempts wouldnt have happened if they didnt have the lead.
Even being down 2 scores, offense didnt give up, but it sputtered. 1st downs being called back, 3rd and long, and their players rose to the occasion. Depth on the o-line really began to show. Good thing as we have 2-3 more linemen who will be able to help by the next game. A place where we need the help.
Their last td was the kids giving up. That is on the coaches! We had a very good chance to win the game deep into the 4th quarter before we fell apart.
We have a lot to build on, work on and correct. With a bye week we have a lot of time to fix those problems.
I have written this before I watch the game on film. My opinion may change after a few hours of film study!
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4. 10 years of high school coaching experience. Took a perennial 0-10,1-9,2-10 program and rebuilt it from the ground up. I bring stability to the program. I don’t move around. Coming from coaching in a community that has almost no youth football. Being able to teach the game and how to play it safely to the first year player as well as the seasoned player.
5. I know a lot of coaches from being in the high school game for many years. I have built relationships with a lot of coaches at every level. I understand what it takes to coach a football team effectively. How to mix personalities and coaching assets for the betterment of the program. I would interview the past coaching staff to see what they could bring to the table. What they thought about the previous administration. Good and bad and what they thought could be done to improve it. I would also research the program from the outside. See what others thought of it. Its strengths and weaknesses. On and off the field. All of those would be a factor in the staff I would hire.
6. we work 4 days a week in the offseason. I encourage players to participate in other sports. The advantages of being a multi sport athlete help with recruiting as well as work the body in different ways. Not all schools can have 4 day a week workouts because of player culture and outside influences. Would have to study that and see if it could be changed. But no matter what we would still work out physically and mentally with the kids who could participate. And hope that a little peer pressure and raising expectations can increase attendance.
7. fundraising. That totally depends on the schools culture and whether there is a booster club or not. In some schools raising 50k a season is easy. In others raising 5k is an issue. There are so many avenues to fundraising it would be a studied decision based on the aforementioned factors. But we would set lofty goals and strive to achieve them. While trying to always give something back to the players from their efforts in fundraising (cloth etc)
8. 10 years of coaching contacts at the next level. I have built relationships with numerous programs. Not trying to oversell an athlete to a higher program that they can be successful at. In my 9 years at my last school EVERY player who was looking to play at the next lever received an offer. Not necessarily the d1 offer they thought they deserved. But a good fit academically, athletically and financially.
there is more that that even. But that’s a quick synopsis of my answers.