3 national polls created from another site

[golfaddict1]

First, thank you Josh for adding a National Forum to your site!   I read much of your posts online and also sadly enjoy seeing your annual moving van list of 100+ HC changes in FL  (the sad part of course is the # of changes being 100+ annually).

 

I look forward to posting in the FL forum and if this national forum gets into the groove, same here.  

 

From another site we created 3 national polls, among some individual entries.   

Each boldfaced below...  I'll have to review one of these nights to see if there's much of any difference between the 3 polls actually. 

 

Official Board Member Compilation Top 25 :    Another site's forum members submitted top 25's and tabulated

 

1. St. Thomas Aquinas FL - 259 points

2. Bishop Gorman NV - 258 points

3(tie). Grayson GA - 248 points 

3(tie). IMG Academy FL - 248 points

5. Cedar Hill TX - 228 points

6. St. John Bosco CA - 200 points

7. Mater Dei CA - 196 points

8(tie). Katy TX - 188 points

8(tie). Colerain OH - 188 points

10. AH-Plantation FL - 184 points

11. Lake Travis TX - 145 points

12. St. Joseph Regional NJ - 143 points

13. Corona Centennial CA - 142 points

14. DeMatha MD - 139 points

15. Roswell GA - 138 points

16. Mallard Creek NC - 135 points

17. Trinity Christian FL - 132 points

18. Miami Central FL - 124 points

19. Don Bosco Prep NJ - 114 points

20. DeSoto TX - 86 points

21. Booker T. Washington FL - 77 points

22. Westlake TX - 69 points

23(tie). St. Edward OH - 59 points

23(tie). De La Salle CA - 59 points

25. Union OK - 55 points

 

The Rest:

26. Northwestern SC - 42 points

27. Allen TX - 31 points

28(tie). Pitt. Central Catholic PA - 30 points

28(tie). Mission Viejo CA - 30 points

30. Colquitt Co. GA - 29 points

31. Armwood FL - 24 points

32. Cass Tech MI - 14 points

33. Mill Creek GA - 9 points

34(tie). Cibolo Steele TX - 7 points

34(tie). Wayne OH - 7 points

34(tie). St. Joseph's Prep PA - 7 points

37. Moeller OH - 6 points

 

 

This official poll above is added to a compilation poll with other media entries creating a 2nd national poll here below 

 

THIS Media poll will consist of are...

USAToday Top 25 : http://usatodayhss.c...-football-teams

MaxPreps Xcellent Top 25 : http://www.maxpreps....ional-guard.htm

Jeff Fisher HSFBA Top 25 : http://highschoolfoo...eseason-top-25/

Freeman Computer aka CalPreps Top 25 : http://calpreps.com/...ional_all25.htm

Board Member Compilation Top 25 :  (not right to promote on this site imo, we link from here)

****** And as of Monday the PrepNation Poll will be added***

To add a 6th poll for now, the Prep Force Top 25 was added as well, which can be found here: http://www.prepforce...op-25-rankings/

 

*** Ties in points were broken by looking at the highest ranking achieved by the teams in question***

Media Compilation Top 25 ;  (# of polls made in parenthesis, 6 total were used) 

1. St. Thomas Aquinas FL - 171 points (6)

2. IMG Academy FL - 168 points (6)

3. Bishop Gorman NV - 167 points (6)

4. Cedar Hill TX - 154 points (6)

5. Grayson GA - 144 points (6)

6. Mater Dei CA - 142 points (6)

7. St. John Bosco CA - 122 points (6)

8. Katy TX - 120 points (6)

9. Colerain OH - 118 points (6)

10. AH-Plantation FL - 117 points (5)

11. DeMatha MD - 117 points (6)

12. Lake Travis TX - 98 points (6)

13. Mallard Creek NC - 84 points (5)

14. Trinity Christian Academy FL - 78 points (5)

15. Miami Central FL - 67 points (4)

16. Roswell GA - 64 points (4)

17. Pitt. Central Catholic PA - 64 points (4)

18. Cibolo Steele TX - 62 points (3)

19. Northwestern SC - 57 points (4)

20. DeSoto TX - 50 points (3)

21. St. Joseph Regional NJ - 47 points (3)

22. Corona Centennial CA - 44 points (3)

23. Booker T. Washington FL - 42 points (3)

24. Don Bosco Prep NJ - 40 points (4)

25. McGill-Toolen AL - 38 points (3)

 

The Rest: (48 Teams Total were ranked between the 6 Polls)

26. Cass Tech MI - 38 points (3)

27. Westlake TX - 38 points (3)

28. Allen TX - 37 points (3)

29. Armwood FL - 24 points (1)

30. St. Edward OH - 22 points (2)

31. Mountain Pointe AZ - 17 points (2)

32. John Curtis LA - 15 points (1)

33. Mission Viejo CA - 13 points (1)

34(tie). Lou. Trinity KY - 12 points (1)

34(tie). Archbishop Hoban OH - 12 points (1)

36. Warren Central IN - 10 points (1)

37(tie). Petal MS - 9 points (1)

37(tie). Center Grove IN - 9 points (1)

39(tie). Chandler AZ - 8 points (1)

39(tie). Good Counsel MD - 8 points (1)

39(tie). Denton Ryan TX - 8 points (1)

42(tie). Valor Christian CO - 7 points (1)

42(tie). Wayne OH - 7 points (1)

42(tie). De La Salle CA - 7 points (1)

45(tie). Fort Dorchester SC - 6 points (1)

45(tie). Saguaro AZ - 6 points (1)

45(tie). Union OK - 6 points (1)

45(tie). Chaminade-Madonna FL - 6 points (1)

 

 

The 3rd national poll was an idea of getting the power states in a ranking order first from regional fans and then working from there.  

 

 

Dirty Thirty  -  Another site's forum members ranked the power states, tabulated and then Final rankings determined by various factors such as 4x100 speed and spelling bee contest... and if needed, a tiebreaker was decided by which QB hit more decibels yelling Omaha. 

 

1    Saint Thomas Aquinas, FL 
2    IMG Academy, "FL" 
3    Bishop Gorman, NV 
4    Katy, TX
5    Cedar Hill, TX
6    Mater Dei, CA 
7    Centennial, CA 
8    Grayson, GA
9    Lake Travis, TX 
10  Colerain, OH 
11  Saint John Bosco, CA 
12  American Heritage - Plantation, FL 
13  Miami Central, FL 
14  Saint Joseph Regional, NJ
15  Dematha, MD
16  Allen, TX 
17  Desoto, TX
18  Northwestern, SC 
19  Mallard Creek, NC 
20  Roswell, GA 
21  Don Bosco Prep, NJ 
22  Saint Edward, OH 
23  Booker T Washington, FL 
24  Steele, TX 
25  De la Salle, CA
26  Mission Viejo, CA 
27  Trinity, TX 
28  Central Catholic, PA 
29  North Shore, TX 
30  Wayne, OH 

 

On Deck : (31-45)

31  Trinity Christian Academy, FL 
32  Armwood, FL 
33  Valor Christian, CO
34  Union, OK 
35  Westlake, TX 
36  Bingham, UT
37  Colquitt County, GA 
38  Cass Tech, MI
39  Desert Ridge, AZ 
40  Jenks, OK 
41  Mountain Pointe, AZ 
42  Fayettville, AR
43  Loyola Academy, IL
44  Oakland, TN. 
45  Good Counsel, MD 

 

Radar schools  -  Not ranked, but being watched... 

 

Ben Davis, IN 
Bishop Niege, KS
Brentwood Academy, TN 

Carmel, IN 
Clemons, AL
Highland Springs, VA
Hoban, OH 

Lone Peak, UT
Maryville, TN 
McEachern, GA 
Stow-Munroe Falls, OH 
Saguaro, AZ 
St. Joe's Prep, PA 
St. John's, DC 

Trinity, KY 

[ATLien12x]

It's all about the Dirty Thirty. The rest is hogwash.

[golfaddict1]

I shouldn't have much trouble getting weekly FL ranking entries on this forum 

[Joshua Wilson]

I will have weekly Florida rankings each week on the main part of the website. We are doing a new ranking here which is going to be a hybrid of voters voting and strength of schedule and other data calculating things out like a BCS-style ranking. Going to be fun.

[Cat_Scratch]

Looking forward to this poll.

[ATLien12x]

I will have weekly Florida rankings each week on the main part of the website. We are doing a new ranking here which is going to be a hybrid of voters voting and strength of schedule and other data calculating things out like a BCS-style ranking. Going to be fun.

Are national posters allowed to post in the Florida section if its Florida related/or in reply to an open going thread?

[Joshua Wilson]

You all have freedom to post anywhere on the board. The only thing I ask is just placing it in the right forum, otherwise, we will have to move it to the proper section. Just trying to keep things tidy if that makes any sense. 

[ATLien12x]

You all have freedom to post anywhere on the board. The only thing I ask is just placing it in the right forum, otherwise, we will have to move it to the proper section. Just trying to keep things tidy if that makes any sense.

Sounds good. Appreciate it

[DisabledAccount]

 

First, thank you Josh for adding a National Forum to your site! I read much of your posts online and also sadly enjoy seeing your annual moving van list of 100+ HC changes in FL (the sad part of course is the # of changes being 100+ annually).

 

I look forward to posting in the FL forum and if this national forum gets into the groove, same here.

 

From another site we created 3 national polls, among some individual entries.

Each boldfaced below... I'll have to review one of these nights to see if there's much of any difference between the 3 polls actually.

 

Official Board Member Compilation Top 25 : Another site's forum members submitted top 25's and tabulated

 

1. St. Thomas Aquinas FL - 259 points

2. Bishop Gorman NV - 258 points

3(tie). Grayson GA - 248 points

3(tie). IMG Academy FL - 248 points

5. Cedar Hill TX - 228 points

6. St. John Bosco CA - 200 points

7. Mater Dei CA - 196 points

8(tie). Katy TX - 188 points

8(tie). Colerain OH - 188 points

10. AH-Plantation FL - 184 points

11. Lake Travis TX - 145 points

12. St. Joseph Regional NJ - 143 points

13. Corona Centennial CA - 142 points

14. DeMatha MD - 139 points

15. Roswell GA - 138 points

16. Mallard Creek NC - 135 points

17. Trinity Christian FL - 132 points

18. Miami Central FL - 124 points

19. Don Bosco Prep NJ - 114 points

20. DeSoto TX - 86 points

21. Booker T. Washington FL - 77 points

22. Westlake TX - 69 points

23(tie). St. Edward OH - 59 points

23(tie). De La Salle CA - 59 points

25. Union OK - 55 points

The Rest:

26. Northwestern SC - 42 points

27. Allen TX - 31 points

28(tie). Pitt. Central Catholic PA - 30 points

28(tie). Mission Viejo CA - 30 points

30. Colquitt Co. GA - 29 points

31. Armwood FL - 24 points

32. Cass Tech MI - 14 points

33. Mill Creek GA - 9 points

34(tie). Cibolo Steele TX - 7 points

34(tie). Wayne OH - 7 points

34(tie). St. Joseph's Prep PA - 7 points

37. Moeller OH - 6 points

 

 

This official poll above is added to a compilation poll with other media entries creating a 2nd national poll here below

 

THIS Media poll will consist of are...

USAToday Top 25 : http://usatodayhss.c...-football-teams

MaxPreps Xcellent Top 25 : http://www.maxpreps....ional-guard.htm

Jeff Fisher HSFBA Top 25 : http://highschoolfoo...eseason-top-25/

Freeman Computer aka CalPreps Top 25 : http://calpreps.com/...ional_all25.htm

Board Member Compilation Top 25 : (not right to promote on this site imo, we link from here)

****** And as of Monday the PrepNation Poll will be added***

To add a 6th poll for now, the Prep Force Top 25 was added as well, which can be found here: http://www.prepforce...op-25-rankings/

*** Ties in points were broken by looking at the highest ranking achieved by the teams in question***

Media Compilation Top 25 ; (# of polls made in parenthesis, 6 total were used)

1. St. Thomas Aquinas FL - 171 points (6)

2. IMG Academy FL - 168 points (6)

3. Bishop Gorman NV - 167 points (6)

4. Cedar Hill TX - 154 points (6)

5. Grayson GA - 144 points (6)

6. Mater Dei CA - 142 points (6)

7. St. John Bosco CA - 122 points (6)

8. Katy TX - 120 points (6)

9. Colerain OH - 118 points (6)

10. AH-Plantation FL - 117 points (5)

11. DeMatha MD - 117 points (6)

12. Lake Travis TX - 98 points (6)

13. Mallard Creek NC - 84 points (5)

14. Trinity Christian Academy FL - 78 points (5)

15. Miami Central FL - 67 points (4)

16. Roswell GA - 64 points (4)

17. Pitt. Central Catholic PA - 64 points (4)

18. Cibolo Steele TX - 62 points (3)

19. Northwestern SC - 57 points (4)

20. DeSoto TX - 50 points (3)

21. St. Joseph Regional NJ - 47 points (3)

22. Corona Centennial CA - 44 points (3)

23. Booker T. Washington FL - 42 points (3)

24. Don Bosco Prep NJ - 40 points (4)

25. McGill-Toolen AL - 38 points (3)

The Rest: (48 Teams Total were ranked between the 6 Polls)

26. Cass Tech MI - 38 points (3)

27. Westlake TX - 38 points (3)

28. Allen TX - 37 points (3)

29. Armwood FL - 24 points (1)

30. St. Edward OH - 22 points (2)

31. Mountain Pointe AZ - 17 points (2)

32. John Curtis LA - 15 points (1)

33. Mission Viejo CA - 13 points (1)

34(tie). Lou. Trinity KY - 12 points (1)

34(tie). Archbishop Hoban OH - 12 points (1)

36. Warren Central IN - 10 points (1)

37(tie). Petal MS - 9 points (1)

37(tie). Center Grove IN - 9 points (1)

39(tie). Chandler AZ - 8 points (1)

39(tie). Good Counsel MD - 8 points (1)

39(tie). Denton Ryan TX - 8 points (1)

42(tie). Valor Christian CO - 7 points (1)

42(tie). Wayne OH - 7 points (1)

42(tie). De La Salle CA - 7 points (1)

45(tie). Fort Dorchester SC - 6 points (1)

45(tie). Saguaro AZ - 6 points (1)

45(tie). Union OK - 6 points (1)

45(tie). Chaminade-Madonna FL - 6 points (1)

 

The 3rd national poll was an idea of getting the power states in a ranking order first from regional fans and then working from there.

 

Dirty Thirty - Another site's forum members ranked the power states, tabulated and then Final rankings determined by various factors such as 4x100 speed and spelling bee contest... and if needed, a tiebreaker was decided by which QB hit more decibels yelling Omaha.

 

 

1 Saint Thomas Aquinas, FL

2 IMG Academy, "FL"

3 Bishop Gorman, NV

4 Katy, TX

5 Cedar Hill, TX

6 Mater Dei, CA

7 Centennial, CA

8 Grayson, GA

9 Lake Travis, TX

10 Colerain, OH

11 Saint John Bosco, CA

12 American Heritage - Plantation, FL

13 Miami Central, FL

14 Saint Joseph Regional, NJ

15 Dematha, MD

16 Allen, TX

17 Desoto, TX

18 Northwestern, SC

19 Mallard Creek, NC

20 Roswell, GA

21 Don Bosco Prep, NJ

22 Saint Edward, OH

23 Booker T Washington, FL

24 Steele, TX

25 De la Salle, CA

26 Mission Viejo, CA

27 Trinity, TX

28 Central Catholic, PA

29 North Shore, TX

30 Wayne, OH

 

On Deck : (31-45)

31 Trinity Christian Academy, FL

32 Armwood, FL

33 Valor Christian, CO

34 Union, OK

35 Westlake, TX

36 Bingham, UT

37 Colquitt County, GA

38 Cass Tech, MI

39 Desert Ridge, AZ

40 Jenks, OK

41 Mountain Pointe, AZ

42 Fayettville, AR

43 Loyola Academy, IL

44 Oakland, TN.

45 Good Counsel, MD

 

Radar schools - Not ranked, but being watched...

 

Ben Davis, IN

Bishop Niege, KS

Brentwood Academy, TN

Carmel, IN

Clemons, AL

Highland Springs, VA

Hoban, OH

Lone Peak, UT

Maryville, TN

McEachern, GA

Stow-Munroe Falls, OH

Saguaro, AZ

St. Joe's Prep, PA

St. John's, DC

Trinity, KY

Maryville lost by how much in state title game, 13? 16? 17? Something around that?

[ATLien12x]

They went 14-1. Lost to Ravenwood 26-17 in the final

[DisabledAccount]

They went 14-1. Lost to Ravenwood 26-17 in the final

Yup I saw that game on score stream and was surprised since it seemed that in some way it was leading to be same result then Maryville lost despite being very high in maxpreps poll, so why Maryville > Ravenwood this year? I'm not familiar with Tennessee so I'm curious

[Cat_Scratch]

Yup I saw that game on score stream and was surprised since it seemed that in some way it was leading to be same result then Maryville lost despite being very high in maxpreps poll, so why Maryville > Ravenwood this year? I'm not familiar with Tennessee so I'm curious

Tennessee = Brentwood Academy. And this year Montgomery Bell Academy.

 

Both Academies... wonder if Ga will play them?

[DisabledAccount]

Tennessee = Brentwood Academy.

That can't seriously be the only good team

[DisabledAccount]

BA been very good last few years, also notice they don't play Ravenwood despite being from same city, kinda surprising 2 good teams from same city not playing but oh well I guess I Dont know how things work there

[Cat_Scratch]

FIFY, I added Montgomery Bell.

[DisabledAccount]

So 2? In a entire state?

[Cat_Scratch]

You will find many good teams in each state, but little more than 1 or 2 elite teams in most states if some states even have an elite team.

 

Texas, California, Florida, Georgia, Ohio, New Jersey usually have 2 or more elite teams every year. Could add a few more states some years like Maryland, South Carolina, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Kentucky... etc.

[DisabledAccount]

You will find many good teams in each state, but little more than 1 or 2 elite teams in most states if some states even have an elite team.

 

Texas, California, Florida, Georgia, Ohio, New Jersey usually have 2 or more elite teams every year. Could add a few more states some years like Maryland, South Carolina, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Kentucky... etc.

Ohh ok, I didn't know we were talking specifically about elite, thought we just talking about good teams

[TnTxn]

BA been very good last few years, also notice they don't play Ravenwood despite being from same city, kinda surprising 2 good teams from same city not playing but oh well I guess I Dont know how things work there

 

The only team to beat 6A Ravenwood last year was 5A state champ Independence.  They, along with BA, are in the same county.  But, publics and privates don't play well together.  Long and complicated history that is ever-evolving.  

[TnTxn]

Yup I saw that game on score stream and was surprised since it seemed that in some way it was leading to be same result then Maryville lost despite being very high in maxpreps poll, so why Maryville > Ravenwood this year? I'm not familiar with Tennessee so I'm curious

 

A new high school opened up and took about half of Ravenwood's freshmen and sophomores.  More importantly, it took the Head Coach and a lot of the coaching staff.  Ravenwood had an excellent senior class last year.  They have lots of question marks this year, and Maryville is very good every year.  They have a great system and a great coach and staff.  

[DisabledAccount]

A new high school opened up and took about half of Ravenwood's freshmen and sophomores. More importantly, it took the Head Coach and a lot of the coaching staff. Ravenwood had an excellent senior class last year. They have lots of question marks this year, and Maryville is very good every year. They have a great system and a great coach and staff.

So odds of repeat unlikely?

[TnTxn]

Well, Ravenwood actually will have a pretty good chance of making it back to the state title game.  There, obviously, anything can happen.  

 

Most of the really good teams will be on the other side of the bracket.  According to the "experts", Maryville and Murfreesboro Oakland are the 2 best teams in 6A and will have to play each other in the semis at the latest.  Maryville is a machine and has played for the state title something like 13 years in a row.  Great program.  Oakland is loaded this year with some great talent, and their coach is in his second year.  Oakland's region is very tough.  In their first game last week, Ravenwood scored 13 points in the final 8 minutes for a 23-19 win against the 6th best team (according to MaxPreps) out of 8 in Oakland's region.