Are Miami Dade's Public School Programs Struggling?

[OldSchoolLion]

3 minutes ago, "PANTHER NATiON" (WE HERE) said:

And beat them all to.

Dillard beat da Bulls in the playoffs???  Has never happened

[“PANTHER NATION(CODE BLUE)]

13 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:

Dillard beat da Bulls in the playoffs???  Has never happened

In 2001we did it was either 2001 or 2000

[OldSchoolLion]

13 minutes ago, "PANTHER NATiON" (WE HERE) said:

In 2001we did it was either 2001 or 2000

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2001-12-01/sports/0112010147_1_bulls-dillard-panthers

sorry, my friend

 

[954gator]

Speaking of Broward vs Dade in the playoffs.   There is one game I've always wanted to see.   2007 MNW vs Deerfield Beach!   If anyone has any footage of that game definitely post it!

[Zoe Boy]

19 hours ago, "PANTHER NATiON" (WE HERE) said:

The fact that Carol city Norland and northwestern is in 6a is very odd to me but 3 of them was once in 8a 

They never was once in 8a

[Zoe Boy]

18 hours ago, BrowardHandicapper said:

Edison was horrible last year but watch how quick they reload and become a threat in 4A this year...

Facts!!

[DisabledAccount]

2 minutes ago, Zoe Boy said:

They never was once in 8a

Wasn't Miami Northwestern and miami Central in 6a back when we only had 6 classes?  

[Zoe Boy]

18 hours ago, "PANTHER NATiON" (WE HERE) said:

I believe the played American & mAter Academy a few times in the playoffs & also the same could b said for central MNW& etc put these teams in the highest classes and let’s see how they fair put central mnw cc in the same class as Wekiva dr Phillips west oragange apopka and see how the finals pan out 

Wouldn’t be no different.. Last time that happen freeman for central ran wild on Dr Phillips...

[Zoe Boy]

2 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

Wasn't Miami Northwestern and miami Central in 6a back when we only had 6 classes?  

Yup... Majority of the Dade teams was 6a...

[DisabledAccount]

3 minutes ago, Zoe Boy said:

Wouldn’t be no different.. Last time that happen freeman for central ran wild on Dr Phillips...

Apopka would be a tough matchup if for nothing else the fact that South Florida rarley sees a single wing offense 

[OldSchoolLion]

22 hours ago, BrowardHandicapper said:

Considering there are 20 total 8A programs in Dade, one might expect some new blood in what I call 3-5 year power cycles.  The problem is you have probably 6-7 teams at the bottom of those 20 teams and they can’t even establish a once in a decade “flash in the pan” season. They are unfortunately consistently 1-4 win teams.   

The funny thing is think those losing programs may even sometumes keep their coaches longer term then the teams that usually have winning records.

Perhaps some schools take their football more serious....

 

 

Just made a new post that might help to explain this.  Those schools you are likely referring to are 95% Hispanic and will probably never have a good football program because of limited interest in the sport.  As the Hispanic population grows in south Florida and beyond, unless we do something to get that community to embrace football, it is going to be a problem. 

I have some Mexican friends who are smaller in stature.  They just cannot relate to playing football when they see 6'4", 300-pound guys on the field.  That is one nice thing about soccer..it allows for people of various shapes/sizes to play. 

[DarterBlue2]

2 hours ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

Wasn't Miami Northwestern and miami Central in 6a back when we only had 6 classes?  

Yes, as was Carol City and Norland. 

[DarterBlue2]

14 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:

I have some Mexican friends who are smaller in stature.  They just cannot relate to playing football when they see 6'4", 300-pound guys on the field.  That is one nice thing about soccer..it allows for people of various shapes/sizes to play. 

I am sure many are good athletes, too. But they don't have the size. So football is not seen as an option. In soccer you could be as short as 5ft 5in or as tall as 6ft 5in, if you have the requisite skills, there is a place for you on the team provided you don't weigh less than 130 lbs or more than 230 lbs. In short it is a more democratic game for the majority of humans. 

[OldSchoolLion]

2 minutes ago, DarterBlue2 said:

...Yes, as was Carol City and Norland. 

6A state finals in the last decade...really opened things up for central FL when they moved up to 8A 

01 Northwestern v Apopka

02 Norland v Edgewater

03 Carol City v Edgewater

06 Northwestern v Lake Brantley

07 Northwestern v Boone

08 Northwestern v Seminole

10 Central v Dr Phillips

[DarterBlue2]

1 minute ago, OldSchoolLion said:

6A state finals in the last decade...really opened things up for central FL when they moved up to 8A 

01 Northwestern v Apopka

02 Norland v Edgewater

03 Carol City v Edgewater

06 Northwestern v Lake Brantley

07 Northwestern v Boone

08 Northwestern v Seminole

10 Central v Dr Phillips

Agreed, that was huge for the Orlando area. We only won two of those seven games above. 

[OldSchoolLion]

7 minutes ago, DarterBlue2 said:

I am sure many are good athletes, too. But they don't have the size. So football is not seen as an option. In soccer you could be as short as 5ft 5in or as tall as 6ft 5in, if you have the requisite skills, there is a place for you on the team provided you don't weigh less than 130 lbs or more than 230 lbs. In short it is a more democratic game for the majority of humans. 

Americans have turned many pro athletic events into freak shows...football, basketball, baseball, bodybuilding, pro wrestling, mma.  The percentage of the mainstream population that can realistically compete at the higher levels has been drastically reduced.

Baseball may not seem as obvious, but compare the guys today versus 40 years ago and it is a freak show.  The arms of some baseball players today are like the legs of those old-timers.

[OldSchoolLion]

8 minutes ago, DarterBlue2 said:

Agreed, that was huge for the Orlando area. We only won two of those seven games above. 

Also created opportunities for South Dade, Southridge, and Columbus, who now did not have to compete against those teams to win the region 

[DarterBlue2]

5 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:

Americans have turned many pro athletic events into freak shows...football, basketball, baseball, bodybuilding, pro wrestling, mma.  The percentage of the mainstream population that can realistically compete at the higher levels has been drastically reduced.

I agree. And, in baseball, it is not clear to me that the extra size makes for a better player. You may hit more home runs, but you sacrifice some other necessary skills. 

With respect to basketball, unless they changed the rules and nature of the game considerably, it was always going to be a freak show from the get go. 

[DarterBlue2]

2 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:

Also created opportunities for South Dade, Southridge, and Columbus, who now did not have to compete against those teams to win the region 

Yes, no doubt. You could also throw Coral Gables in there too, though they have not made it to a final yet, as well as some of the Broward County public schools who now also have a better chance of a deep run.