Vero Beach schedule not weak???

[ohs vargas]

12 hours ago, Floridatech said:

I'm tellin you I think we get knocked off by DP tho 

I don't know man DP this year is struggling but who knows they could heat up closer to playoff time. But right now I see them struggling getting past Cen10.

[Floridatech]

12 hours ago, KeemD321 said:

Play who KOC?

Cocoa next year 

[Floridatech]

8 minutes ago, ohs vargas said:

I don't know man DP this year is struggling but who knows they could heat up closer to playoff time. But right now I see them struggling getting past Cen10.

Naw I got money on DP, their schedule is stronger and playoff experience will get Dr Phillips past Treasure Coast teams 

[ohs vargas]

9 minutes ago, Floridatech said:

Naw I got money on DP, their schedule is stronger and playoff experience will get Dr Phillips past Treasure Coast teams 

Like i said they could start to heat up like they usually do. This next game against Wekiva should show us where there at right now.

[KeemD321]

43 minutes ago, Floridatech said:

Cocoa next year 

It definitely would help Cocoa prepare for spread offenses and get their defense prepared. But I'd rather it be a week one game for them.

[Floridatech]

20 minutes ago, KeemD321 said:

It definitely would help Cocoa prepare for spread offenses and get their defense prepared. But I'd rather it be a week one game for them.

It's going to be KOC if it happens because Vero been playin Brevard teams in the koc for awhile now 

[Floridatech]

47 minutes ago, ohs vargas said:

Like i said they could start to heat up like they usually do. This next game against Wekiva should show us where there at right now.

4sho

[KeemD321]

4 hours ago, Floridatech said:

It's going to be KOC if it happens because Vero been playin Brevard teams in the koc for awhile now 

That is true. Whether it was Palm Bay or Viera. Who knows maybe they will play atleast 2 Brevard powers a year since distance isn't an issue.

[OldSchoolLion]

Folks, I don't care who Vero plays during the regular season, it is not the magic bullet for the results below.  This is more about specific game prep/focus/execution.  The last three years, Vero lost after an easy playoff win.  They failed to shift gears. Having a brutal regular season schedule does not guarantee mental readiness/focus during the playoffs.

Somebody once said "perfect practice makes perfect."  We spend a lot more time on the practice field than the playing field.

2017 Riverview 35-28     4 turnovers and 28 points allowed by VB in second qtr; Riverview rb runs for 230 yards on 51 carries

2016 Dr P 34-24       20 points allowed in second qtr; fumbled punt return led to Dr P TD and VB fumbled in red zone too

2015 Osceola 42-35     21 points allowed in third qtr; 4 TO's for Vero, including pick 6 on first throw of game; 2 Osceola rb's combine for 278 yards rushing on 37 carries

2014 Manatee 47-28     28 second-half points for Manatee; 415 rushing yards for Manatee

2013 Manatee 34-28     445 rushing yards for Manatee

[Floridatech]

3 hours ago, OldSchoolLion said:

Folks, I don't care who Vero plays during the regular season, it is not the magic bullet for the results below.  This is more about specific game prep/focus/execution.  The last three years, Vero lost after an easy playoff win.  They failed to shift gears. Having a brutal regular season schedule does not guarantee mental readiness/focus during the playoffs.

Somebody once said "perfect practice makes perfect."  We spend a lot more time on the practice field than the game field.

2017 Riverview 35-28     4 turnovers and 28 points allowed by VB in second qtr; Riverview rb runs for 230 yards on 51 carries

2016 Dr P 34-24       20 points allowed in second qtr; fumbled punt return led to Dr P TD and VB fumbled in red zone too

2015 Osceola 42-35     21 points allowed in third qtr; 4 TO's for Vero, including pick 6 on first throw of game; 2 Osceola rb's combine for 278 yards rushing on 37 carries

2014 Manatee 47-28     28 second-half points for Manatee; 415 rushing yards for Manatee

2013 Manatee 34-28     445 rushing yards for Manatee

You right because last year and this season we've been beaten state champions in the regular season and haven't even got past the second round of the playoffs....you know if we don't make it to the state semifinals atleast this year, then it'll be 20 years since that happened (1998)....

2017 and 2018 defending or past state champions/runner ups beaten by Vero...

Oscar Smith 

Venice 

Pahokee 2x

Lincoln 

And if we go back to around 2013 it's like this.... 

Palm Bay 2x (KOC 2013,2014) 

Dwyer (Spring Game 2015)

Palm Beach Gardens (2013-2016)

Viera (KOC 2017)

Oscar Smith (Reg 2017)

Pahokee (Reg 2017,2018)

Lincoln (Reg 2017)

Venice (Reg 2018)

All these results and it won't make a difference for the playoffs, that's why I feel like Dr Phillips for example could sneak in the playoffs with an OK record and potentially upset Vero cuz of that brutal schedule they got imo 

 

 

 

 

[DisabledAccount]

10 minutes ago, Floridatech said:

You right because last year and this season we've been beaten state champions in the regular season and haven't even got past the second round of the playoffs....you know if we don't make it to the state semifinals atleast this year, then it'll be 20 years since that happened (1998)....

2017 and 2018 defending or past state champions/runner ups beaten by Vero...

Oscar Smith 

Venice 

Pahokee 2x

Lincoln 

And if we go back to around 2013 it's like this.... 

Palm Bay 2x (KOC 2013,2014) 

Dwyer (Spring Game 2015)

Palm Beach Gardens (2013-2016)

Viera (KOC 2017)

Oscar Smith (Reg 2017)

Pahokee (Reg 2017,2018)

Lincoln (Reg 2017)

Venice (Reg 2018)

All these results and it won't make a difference for the playoffs, that's why I feel like Dr Phillips for example could sneak in the playoffs with an OK record and potentially upset Vero cuz of that brutal schedule they got imo 

 

 

 

 

Maybe the problem is you are looking at teams as if they were at state the year you all played them 

 

How many of those teams on the list played at state the year Vero beat them? 

[OldSchoolLion]

34 minutes ago, Floridatech said:

You right because last year and this season we've been beaten state champions in the regular season and haven't even got past the second round of the playoffs....you know if we don't make it to the state semifinals atleast this year, then it'll be 20 years since that happened (1998)....

2017 and 2018 defending or past state champions/runner ups beaten by Vero...

Oscar Smith 

Venice 

Pahokee 2x

Lincoln 

And if we go back to around 2013 it's like this.... 

Palm Bay 2x (KOC 2013,2014) 

Dwyer (Spring Game 2015)

Palm Beach Gardens (2013-2016)

Viera (KOC 2017)

Oscar Smith (Reg 2017)

Pahokee (Reg 2017,2018)

Lincoln (Reg 2017)

Venice (Reg 2018)

All these results and it won't make a difference for the playoffs, that's why I feel like Dr Phillips for example could sneak in the playoffs with an OK record and potentially upset Vero cuz of that brutal schedule they got imo 

 

 

 

 

In 2012, Vero had 6 turnovers(5 fumbles) against East Lake and allowed 14 second half points.  In 2011, Vero led 22-21 but allowed 20 unanswered points in second half points against East Lake. 

Except for the playoff loss last year, Vero was in every playoff game from 2011-2016, either ahead at halftime or losing by no more than 10 points.  It's not like they have been completely outclassed by their playoff opponents. They were plenty good enough to compete, they simply did not execute.

Most of their playoff games were lost in the second half. There are clear trends in the playoff losses.  The coaches need to take a hard look in the mirror.  I'm sure they have.  

 

[Floridatech]

3 hours ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

Maybe the problem is you are looking at teams as if they were at state the year you all played them 

 

How many of those teams on the list played at state the year Vero beat them? 

3 to 4 don't count our teams because like I said some were defending state champs or some made it deep.... 

Palm Beach Gardens went to the fourth round of the playoffs in 2013(we beat em 35-27 coulda been worse)

Oscar Smith were state runner ups last year when we beat em 

Pahokee were defending state champs when they came to play us last year and where on a 15 game winning streak 

Venice is the defending champs this year and we're their only loss right now 

 

[Floridatech]

2 hours ago, OldSchoolLion said:

In 2012, Vero had 6 turnovers(5 fumbles) against East Lake and allowed 14 second half points.  In 2011, Vero led 22-21 but allowed 20 unanswered points in second half points against East Lake. 

Except for the playoff loss last year, Vero was in every playoff game from 2011-2016, either ahead at halftime or losing by no more than 10 points.  It's not like they have been completely outclassed by their playoff opponents. They were plenty good enough to compete, they simply did not execute.

Most of their playoff games were lost in the second half. There are clear trends in the playoff losses.  The coaches need to take a hard look in the mirror.  I'm sure they have.  

 

Vero got beat 29-7 by East Lake in 2012 turnovers turnovers turnovers kill us.......but also look how many points we've allowed in the playoffs since 2008 most of the playoff games coulda been worse especially that Osceola game, they shoulda won 49-35 actually but TD was called back and Dr Phillips was up in the 4th qt like 34-17 in 2016 and imo I think the Riverview game woulda been worse too if it was at Sarasota