Jones V Edgewater

[EagleEye]

With Jones barley scraping by in their last 2 games by 1 point on each and Edgewater coming back on a last second fumble after being out for 2 weeks. I'm going Edgewater to win with at least 25 penalties total game given the "ego" of both teams. If Edge gets some good practice in to fix passing and their awareness I'd give em 12 on Jones. Don't know if it's just the false sense of security from the Apopka game or just Wekiva being on top of it but I'm still wondering how Jones went into OT on their senior night against now 1-3 Wekiva.

[DarterBlue2]

4 hours ago, EagleEye said:

With Jones barley scraping by in their last 2 games by 1 point on each and Edgewater coming back on a last second fumble after being out for 2 weeks. I'm going Edgewater to win with at least 25 penalties total game given the "ego" of both teams. If Edge gets some good practice in to fix passing and their awareness I'd give em 12 on Jones. Don't know if it's just the false sense of security from the Apopka game or just Wekiva being on top of it but I'm still wondering how Jones went into OT on their senior night against now 1-3 Wekiva.

Jones is about 80% of what they were a year ago. If Edgewater is as good as they were when they beat Jones last year, I expect a 14 point win or even more. 

[HornetFan]

4 hours ago, DarterBlue2 said:

Jones is about 80% of what they were a year ago. If Edgewater is as good as they were when they beat Jones last year, I expect a 14 point win or even more. 

I agree; Edgewater should win by 2-3 TDs.

[DarterBlue2]

28 minutes ago, HornetFan said:

I agree; Edgewater should win by 2-3 TDs.

Yes, Jones's biggest drop off is its defensive line. Last year, Apopka literally could not run the ball on them and had to throw it (something they hardly do) to get any offensive yards. This year, Apopka moved the ball with relative ease and were it not for fumbles (one of which was clearly unforced), Jones would have lost this year's game. 

Edgewater has many more offensive weapons than Apopka and I would be surprised if they don't score at least 30 on Jones. I only see Jones scoring a maximum of 14-17 points on Edgewater. 

[HornetFan]

14 hours ago, DarterBlue2 said:

Yes, Jones's biggest drop off is its defensive line. Last year, Apopka literally could not run the ball on them and had to throw it (something they hardly do) to get any offensive yards. This year, Apopka moved the ball with relative ease and were it not for fumbles (one of which was clearly unforced), Jones would have lost this year's game. 

Edgewater has many more offensive weapons than Apopka and I would be surprised if they don't score at least 30 on Jones. I only see Jones scoring a maximum of 14-17 points on Edgewater. 

I just hope the game is played. You never know till Wednesday or Thursday if some teams pass their Covid-19 tests in Orange County. The only Central Florida matchup I would like to see more than this game would be Edgewater - Seminole, but that's not on the schedule this year. As for Jones - Edgewater, I think Edgewater is deeper in talent that could determine outcome late in game. Also, Edgewater's coaching staff is excellent.

[Jambun82]

On 10/18/2020 at 9:19 AM, EagleEye said:

With Jones barley scraping by in their last 2 games by 1 point on each and Edgewater coming back on a last second fumble after being out for 2 weeks. I'm going Edgewater to win with at least 25 penalties total game given the "ego" of both teams. If Edge gets some good practice in to fix passing and their awareness I'd give em 12 on Jones. Don't know if it's just the false sense of security from the Apopka game or just Wekiva being on top of it but I'm still wondering how Jones went into OT on their senior night against now 1-3 Wekiva.

EagleEye, could you clarify what you mean when you state that the "ego' of both teams will lead to at least 25 penalties in the game? Thank you. 

[DarterBlue2]

6 hours ago, Jambun82 said:

EagleEye, could you clarify what you mean when you state that the "ego' of both teams will lead to at least 25 penalties in the game? Thank you. 

I can't answer for EagleEye, but the following comments may lend some perspective.

Last year's game was attended by over 4,000 fans and was played with a lot of emotional intensity.  Edgewater shares a boundary with Jones, among other schools, and there tends to be a lot of emotional intensity between the schools as the game (when scheduled) is played for bragging rights. Over the last 20 years or so, when Jones was down, several Jones kids have appeared on Edgewater rosters. 

[Jambun82]

17 hours ago, DarterBlue2 said:

I can't answer for EagleEye, but the following comments may lend some perspective.

Last year's game was attended by over 4,000 fans and was played with a lot of emotional intensity.  Edgewater shares a boundary with Jones, among other schools, and there tends to be a lot of emotional intensity between the schools as the game (when scheduled) is played for bragging rights. Over the last 20 years or so, when Jones was down, several Jones kids have appeared on Edgewater rosters. 

All right. 

[HornetFan]

On 10/20/2020 at 5:01 AM, DarterBlue2 said:

I can't answer for EagleEye, but the following comments may lend some perspective.

Last year's game was attended by over 4,000 fans and was played with a lot of emotional intensity.  Edgewater shares a boundary with Jones, among other schools, and there tends to be a lot of emotional intensity between the schools as the game (when scheduled) is played for bragging rights. Over the last 20 years or so, when Jones was down, several Jones kids have appeared on Edgewater rosters. 

I agree; this is a local rivalry game between two teams that play a very physical game of football. Expect emotions to run high and penalties should be plentiful. These kids know each other well and bragging rights will add to the intensity. I still expect Edgewater will win this based upon greater depth and talent. Next year could be entirely different as kids tend to drift between schools in Orlando as local supremacy shifts back and forth. Recruiting has destroyed the balance we used to have in Central Florida.

[DarterBlue2]

7 minutes ago, HornetFan said:

I agree; this is a local rivalry game between two teams that play a very physical game of football. Expect emotions to run high and penalties should be plentiful. These kids know each other well and bragging rights will add to the intensity. I still expect Edgewater will win this based upon greater depth and talent. Next year could be entirely different as kids tend to drift between schools in Orlando as local supremacy shifts back and forth. Recruiting has destroyed the balance we used to have in Central Florida.

Partially, but not to the same extent it has in Dade country and to a lesser extent, Broward country. There, probably a total of a half dozen schools sop up just about all the talent. It has led to multiple state titles for: St Thomas, Chaminade, American Heritage, Northwestern, Central and Booker T. Washington. However, as a result, the rest of these counties' teams tend to be mediocre, with a few exceptions such as Columbus and Western (recently). The Orlando area still has talent spread out among more teams. 

[HornetFan]

3 hours ago, DarterBlue2 said:

Partially, but not to the same extent it has in Dade country and to a lesser extent, Broward country. There, probably a total of a half dozen schools sop up just about all the talent. It has led to multiple state titles for: St Thomas, Chaminade, American Heritage, Northwestern, Central and Booker T. Washington. However, as a result, the rest of these counties' teams tend to be mediocre, with a few exceptions such as Columbus and Western (recently). The Orlando area still has talent spread out among more teams. 

The popularity of 7v7 has increased the contact between the players, especially on the all-star teams that have been created. Just as players in the NBA have been trying to assemble super teams, these high schoolers are working at the same goal. A team I follow is much improved this season as the result of almost 10 transfers, with almost all performing important starting roles. The transfer rule has made this possible.

[DarterBlue2]

41 minutes ago, HornetFan said:

The popularity of 7v7 has increased the contact between the players, especially on the all-star teams that have been created. Just as players in the NBA have been trying to assemble super teams, these high schoolers are working at the same goal. A team I follow is much improved this season as the result of almost 10 transfers, with almost all performing important starting roles. The transfer rule has made this possible.

No doubt there is some stacking of teams in metro Orlando. But even with that, it is not as bad as down south. There it is totally out of hand and has been even before the era of open enrollment. That is because, coaches openly recruit the kids from the pee wee leagues. There are literally no guard rails. The population density which is greater than in Orlando makes it easy even if the kid has no reliable transportation. 

[DisabledAccount]

1 minute ago, DarterBlue2 said:

No doubt there is some stacking of teams in metro Orlando. But even with that, it is not as bad as down south. There it is totally out of hand and has been even before the era of open enrollment. That is because, coaches openly recruit the kids from the pee wee leagues. There are literally no guard rails. The population density which is greater than in Orlando makes it easy even if the kid has no reliable transportation. 

Though I will say at least SFL is more transparent with transfers, up here in North and Central FL many counties the transfers are never reported by the media, for example a team up here like Lee probably gets similar transfers to what STA would get in a normal year but most people wouldn't know that as the media up in Jacksonville never cover transfers so it would seem from outside that they are all homegrown talent but a lot of stuff happens behind closed doors in jacksonville only for the media to look the other way 

[DarterBlue2]

5 hours ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

Though I will say at least SFL is more transparent with transfers, up here in North and Central FL many counties the transfers are never reported by the media, for example a team up here like Lee probably gets similar transfers to what STA would get in a normal year but most people wouldn't know that as the media up in Jacksonville never cover transfers so it would seem from outside that they are all homegrown talent but a lot of stuff happens behind closed doors in jacksonville only for the media to look the other way 

Very true. The same applies to Orlando. But if you follow the game carefully, you know. In the Orlando area, it is not always active recruiting. Some programs tend to sell themselves. 

[HornetFan]

6 hours ago, DarterBlue2 said:

Very true. The same applies to Orlando. But if you follow the game carefully, you know. In the Orlando area, it is not always active recruiting. Some programs tend to sell themselves. 

There is also active recruiting year round in Orlando area. It gets real heavy during the 7v7 winter season when the areas top skill position players are on display at tournaments each weekend. 

[HornetFan]

Possible big upset; Jones leads 24-7 in 4th quarter.

 

[HornetFan]

3 minutes ago, HornetFan said:

Possible big upset; Jones leads 24-7 in 4th quarter.

 

Jones goes up 31-7 in 4th.

[HornetFan]

Jones 31-13 late in 4th quarter.

[HornetFan]

Seminole trailing Spruce Creek 24-21 late in 4th quarter. Another upset in the making.

[HornetFan]

Seminole 28-24 final over Spruce Creek

Jones 31-13 final over Edgewater

[EagleEye]

3 minutes ago, HornetFan said:

Seminole 28-24 final over Spruce Creek

Jones 31-13 final over Edgewater

Edgewater was out of it from the jump on this game

[HornetFan]

14 hours ago, EagleEye said:

Edgewater was out of it from the jump on this game

It's hard to beat any team when you have 5 turnovers; Jones took advantage and blew out Edgewater.

[HornetFan]

15 hours ago, HornetFan said:

Seminole trailing Spruce Creek 24-21 late in 4th quarter. Another upset in the making.

Seminole took final kickoff with 20 seconds left in game, trailing 24-21. They scored in two plays with time expiring to win 28-24.