One true state champion

[nolebull813]

Ok here is how you settle everything on the field. 9 rounds to determine one true state champion. Here’s how it works. 
 

First everyone plays 5 regular season games. Just to warm up, get in rhythm, and gel for the playoffs. 
 

The top 512 teams make the playoffs. 
 

Round 1 - 512 teams 

Round 2 - 256 teams

Round 3 - 128 teams 

Round 4 - 64 teams 

Round 5 - 32 teams 

Round 6 - 16 teams 

Round 7 - 8 teams 

Round 8 - 4 teams 

Round 9 - 2 teams for the 1 true State Championship. 
 

 

That means everyone gets 6 games minimum, and if you lose in the early rounds you can just schedule random games with other teams who were eliminated as well. Up to 4 more depending on what round you were eliminated in. 
 

can I get and Amen?

[nolebull813]

It will be 1 vs 512, 2 vs 511 and so on. 
 

So Chaminade will play the Florida School for the Deaf, and STA will play the Tampa School for the Blind 

[Nulli Secundus]

44 minutes ago, nolebull813 said:

Ok here is how you settle everything on the field. 9 rounds to determine one true state champion. Here’s how it works. 
 

First everyone plays 5 regular season games. Just to warm up, get in rhythm, and gel for the playoffs. 
 

The top 512 teams make the playoffs. 
 

Round 1 - 512 teams 

Round 2 - 256 teams

Round 3 - 128 teams 

Round 4 - 64 teams 

Round 5 - 32 teams 

Round 6 - 16 teams 

Round 7 - 8 teams 

Round 8 - 4 teams 

Round 9 - 2 teams for the 1 true State Championship. 
 

 

That means everyone gets 6 games minimum, and if you lose in the early rounds you can just schedule random games with other teams who were eliminated as well. Up to 4 more depending on what round you were eliminated in. 
 

can I get and Amen?

All I see is a cut to the FHSAA's pockets.  This would be a quick hell no!

[Ray Icaza]

38 minutes ago, nolebull813 said:

Ok here is how you settle everything on the field. 9 rounds to determine one true state champion. Here’s how it works. 
 

 

First everyone plays 5 regular season games. Just to warm up, get in rhythm, and gel for the playoffs. 
 

 

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The top 512 teams make the playoffs. 
 

Round 1 - 512 teams 

Round 2 - 256 teams

Round 3 - 128 teams 

Round 4 - 64 teams 

Round 5 - 32 teams 

Round 6 - 16 teams 

Round 7 - 8 teams 

Round 8 - 4 teams 

Round 9 - 2 teams for the 1 true State Championship. 
 

 

That means everyone gets 6 games minimum, and if you lose in the early rounds you can just schedule random games with other teams who were eliminated as well. Up to 4 more depending on what round you were eliminated in. 
 

can I get and Amen?

An Amen for trolling everyone??  If you truly wanted one champion you would leave the 11 week season (10 games) and after the 6th game, FHSAA would put out their rankings based on combination of MaxPrep poll and HS Coaches poll.  That gets update weekly after that till season end and top 32 teams get in.  That would get you to a championship round game in the 5th round just like today.  Chaminade as the #! seed got Carrollwood Day #32 and STA #2 seed vs Vanguard #31 in round one, not the farce you described. 

[nolebull813]

14 minutes ago, Ray Icaza said:

An Amen for trolling everyone??  If you truly wanted one champion you would leave the 11 week season (10 games) and after the 6th game, FHSAA would put out their rankings based on combination of MaxPrep poll and HS Coaches poll.  That gets update weekly after that till season end and top 32 teams get in.  That would get you to a championship round game in the 5th round just like today.  Chaminade as the #! seed got Carrollwood Day #32 and STA #2 seed vs Vanguard #31 in round one, not the farce you described. 

Amendment by member Ray passes!!!! 

[Ray Icaza]

17 minutes ago, nolebull813 said:

Amendment by member Ray passes!!!! 

And for those who are proponents of the relegation/promotion plan you can add a Gold Division for those ranked 33-64 plus a Blue Division for 65-96.  So if you are in the top 20%, you get recognized with a playoff spot at your level.  Then everyone can stop making excuses.  

[Nulli Secundus]

1 hour ago, nolebull813 said:

Ok here is how you settle everything on the field. 9 rounds to determine one true state champion. Here’s how it works. 
 

First everyone plays 5 regular season games. Just to warm up, get in rhythm, and gel for the playoffs. 
 

The top 512 teams make the playoffs. 
 

Round 1 - 512 teams 

Round 2 - 256 teams

Round 3 - 128 teams 

Round 4 - 64 teams 

Round 5 - 32 teams 

Round 6 - 16 teams 

Round 7 - 8 teams 

Round 8 - 4 teams 

Round 9 - 2 teams for the 1 true State Championship. 
 

 

That means everyone gets 6 games minimum, and if you lose in the early rounds you can just schedule random games with other teams who were eliminated as well. Up to 4 more depending on what round you were eliminated in. 
 

can I get and Amen?

District champs only from a 64 district system based on geography.  6 round playoff system.  Runner-ups can have whatever consolation bowl they desire.  Below is sample of what the post season could've looked like based on this year's playoff results for all the teams that reached the semifinals.  That's how your start the playoffs.

In no particular order or seeding
Mandarin
Seminole
Monarch
Palm Beach Central
Sumner
Plant
Columbus
Western
Jones
Tampa Bay Tech
St Thomas Aquinas
Coconut Creek
Jesuit
Gaither
Homestead
Miramar
Bolles
Bishop Moore
American Heritage
Cardinal Gibbons
Berkeley Prep
Calvary Christian
Norland
Miami Central
Chaminade-Madonna
Archbishop Carrol
Clearwater Central Catholic
Trinity Christian Academy
First Baptist Academy
Trinity Catholic
Cardinal Mooney
North Florida Christian
Buchholz
Bartram Trail
Treasure Coast
DeLand
Lakeland
Lake Minneola
Venice
Riverview (Sarasota)
St. Augustine
Choctawhatchee
Mainland
Sebring
Vanguard
Lake Wales
Dunbar
Naples
Pensacola Catholic
FSU
Cocoa
South Sumter
Bradford
Baker County
Bishop Verot
Booker
Bozeman
Holmes County
Madison County
Union County
Blountstown
Port St. Joe
Williston
Hawthorne

[nolebull813]

31 minutes ago, Nulli Secundus said:

District champs only from a 64 district system based on geography.  6 round playoff system.  Runner-ups can have whatever consolation bowl they desire.  Below is sample of what the post season could've looked like based on this year's playoff results for all the teams that reached the semifinals.  That's how your start the playoffs.

In no particular order or seeding
Mandarin
Seminole
Monarch
Palm Beach Central
Sumner
Plant
Columbus
Western
Jones
Tampa Bay Tech
St Thomas Aquinas
Coconut Creek
Jesuit
Gaither
Homestead
Miramar
Bolles
Bishop Moore
American Heritage
Cardinal Gibbons
Berkeley Prep
Calvary Christian
Norland
Miami Central
Chaminade-Madonna
Archbishop Carrol
Clearwater Central Catholic
Trinity Christian Academy
First Baptist Academy
Trinity Catholic
Cardinal Mooney
North Florida Christian
Buchholz
Bartram Trail
Treasure Coast
DeLand
Lakeland
Lake Minneola
Venice
Riverview (Sarasota)
St. Augustine
Choctawhatchee
Mainland
Sebring
Vanguard
Lake Wales
Dunbar
Naples
Pensacola Catholic
FSU
Cocoa
South Sumter
Bradford
Baker County
Bishop Verot
Booker
Bozeman
Holmes County
Madison County
Union County
Blountstown
Port St. Joe
Williston
Hawthorne

Love it. If you aren’t top 64 in the state then you shouldn’t be competing for any type of real championship anyways. 

[Dr. D]

Can't wait for that Columbus-Holmes County matchup in the first round.  (Sorry, just me)

[Nulli Secundus]

24 minutes ago, Dr. D said:

Can't wait for that Columbus-Holmes County matchup in the first round.  (Sorry, just me)

Playoffs would be based on geographical location.  That will help with excessive travel times in the early rounds.  The only way Columbus/Holmes County would meet would be if they both made it that far.  Given where they are both located, this would most likely be a title match.

[Dr. D]

Okay, Mandarin vs. Holmes County in the first round.  But I get it, glad geography would come in to play.  But at some point you would have to cross-over regions (like they do in Georgia), so that 2 teams from the same region/city could play in the finals, if they happened to be the 2 best teams. 

[Nulli Secundus]

41 minutes ago, Dr. D said:

Okay, Mandarin vs. Holmes County in the first round.  But I get it, glad geography would come in to play.  But at some point you would have to cross-over regions (like they do in Georgia), so that 2 teams from the same region/city could play in the finals, if they happened to be the 2 best teams. 

Geography based. Playoff games and seeding would be based on on proximity.  For example, the first round would be district 1 vs 2, 3 vs 4, 5 vs 6, etc.  From the info I posted back in January, in order for Holmes and Mandarin to meet, that would most likely be a 3rd or 4th round match-up if both teams keep winning.  This approach serves two purposes: 1) limit unnecessary travel and 2) provide a true king of the state experience so no one region will have a sizeable advantage over any other in the later rounds regardless of how many schools may come from a particular city/county. 

Region 1
District 1
Tate (Cantonment)
Escambia (Pensacola)
Pine Forest (Pensacola)
Washington (Pensacola)
Pensacola
Pensacola Catholic
West Florida (Pensacola)
Northview (Century)

District 2
Gulf Breeze
Milton
Navarre
Pace
Niceville
Choctawhatchee (Fort Walton Beach)
Fort Walton Beach
Jay

District 3
Crestview
Walton (DeFuniak Springs)
South Walton (Santa Rosa Beach)
Rocky Bayou Christian (Niceville)
Baker
Freeport
Holmes County (Bonifay)
Vernon

District 4
Cottondale
Sneads
Marianna
Graceville
Chipley
Gadsden County (Havana)
Munroe (Quincy)
Blountstown

District 5
Mosley (Lynn Haven)
Arnold (Panama City Beach)
Bay (Panama City)
North Bay Haven (Panama City)
Rutherford (Panama City)
Bozeman (Panama City)
Port St. Joe
Wewahitchka

District 6
Wakulla (Crawfordville)
Franklin County (Eastpoint)
Liberty County (Bristol)
Rickards (Tallahassee)
Florida High (Tallahassee)
Maclay (Tallahassee)
FAMU (Tallahassee)
St. John Paul II (Tallahassee)

District 7
Chiles (Tallahassee)
Godby (Tallahassee)
North Florida Christian (Tallahassee)
Leon (Tallahassee)
Lincoln (Tallahassee)
Taylor County (Perry)
Aucilla Christian (Monticello)
Jefferson County (Monticello)

District 8
Hamilton County (Jasper)
Suwannee (Live Oak)
Madison County (Madison)
Bell
Branford
Lafayette (Mayo)
Dixie County (Cross City)
Trenton

District 9
Columbia (Lake City)
Fort White
Union County (Lake Butler)
Gainesville
Bradford (Starke)
Santa Fe (Alachua)
Hawthorne
Newberry

District 10
Buchholz (Gainesville)
Eastside (Gainesville)
P. K. Yonge (Gainesville)
Dunnellon
Trinity Catholic (Ocala)
Bronson
Chiefland
Williston

District 11
Forest (Ocala)
West Port (Ocala)
Vanguard (Ocala)
Palatka
North Marion (Citra)
Crescent City
Lake Weir (Ocala)

District 12
Fleming Island
Oakleaf (Orange Park)
Middleburg
Orange Park
Ridgeview (Orange Park)
Clay (Green Cove Springs)
Baker County (Glen St. Mary)
Keystone Heights

District 13
North Florida Educational (Jacksonville)
University Christian (Jacksonville)
Baldwin
Fernandina Beach
West Nassau (Callahan)
Yulee
Hilliard

District 14
Wolfson (Jacksonville)
Ed White (Jacksonville)
Riverside (Jacksonville)
Westside (Jacksonville)
Christs Church Academy (Jacksonville)
Providence (Jacksonville)
Trinity Christian (Jacksonville)

District 15
Terry Parker (Jacksonville)
Andrew Jackson (Jacksonville)
Raines (Jacksonville)
Ribault (Jacksonville)
Bishop Kenny (Jacksonville)
Bolles (Jacksonville)
Episcopal (Jacksonville)

District 16
Atlantic Coast (Jacksonville)
Mandarin (Jacksonville)
Sandalwood (Jacksonville)
Englewood (Jacksonville)
First Coast (Jacksonville)
Fletcher (Neptune Beach)

Region 2
District 17
Bartram Trail (St. Johns)
Creekside (St. Johns)
Nease (Ponte Vedra)
Ponte Vedra
Menendez (St. Augustine)
St. Augustine
Tocoi Creek (St. Augustine)
St. Joseph (St. Augustine)

District 18
Flagler Palm Coast
DeLand
New Smyrna Beach
Spruce Creek (Port Orange)
University (Orange City)
Matanzas (Palm Coast)
Atlantic (Port Orange)
Taylor (Pierson)

District 19
Lake Mary
Seminole (Sanford)
Deltona
Mainland (Daytona Beach)
Pine Ridge (Deltona)
Seabreeze (Daytona Beach)
Father Lopez (Daytona Beach)
Halifax Academy (Daytona Beach)

District 20
East Ridge (Clermont)
Lake Minneola
South Lake (Groveland)
Leesburg
Tavares
Eustis
Mount Dora
Umatilla

District 21
Apopka
Evans (Orlando)
Lake Brantley
Hagerty (Oviedo)
Lyman (Longwood)
Oviedo
Winter Springs
Wekiva (Apopka)

District 22
Ocoee
West Orange (Winter Garden)
Horizon (Winter Garden)
Jones (Orlando)
Foundation Academy (Winter Garden)
Orangewood Christian (Maitland)
Trinity Preparatory (Winter Park)

District 23
Colonial (Orlando)
Timber Creek (Orlando)
University (Orlando)
Winter Park
Boone (Orlando)
Cypress Creek (Orlando)
Freedom (Orlando)

District 24
Lake Nona (Orlando)
Oak Ridge (Orlando)
Dr. Phillips (Orlando)
Olympia (Orlando)
Windermere
East River (Orlando)
Lake Howell (Winter Park)

District 25
Edgewater (Orlando)
Bishop Moore (Orlando)
Lake Buena Vista (Orlando)
First Academy (Orlando)
Orlando Christian Prep

District 26
George Jenkins (Lakeland)
Kathleen (Lakeland)
Bartow
Fort Meade
Mulberry
Tenoroc (Lakeland)
Lakeland Christian
Victory Christian (Lakeland)

District 27
Lake Gibson (Lakeland)
Lakeland
Haines City
Winter Haven
Auburndale
Lake Region (Eagle Lake)
Discovery (Lake Alfred)

District 28
Ridge Community (Davenport)
Celebration
Tohopekaliga (Kissimmee)
Davenport
Gateway (Kissimmee)
Lake Wales
Frostproof

District 29
Osceola (Kissimmee)
St. Cloud
Harmony
Liberty (Kissimmee)
Astronaut (Titusville)
Holy Trinity (Melbourne)
Melbourne Central Catholic

District 30
Heritage (Palm Bay)
Melbourne
Viera (Melbourne)
Bayside (Palm Bay)
Eau Gallie (Melbourne)
Merritt Island
Okeechobee
Cocoa

District 31
Centennial (Port St. Lucie)
Fort Pierce Central
Vero Beach
Rockledge
Satellite (Satellite Beach)
Palm Bay (Melbourne)
Space Coast (Cocoa)
Titusville

District 32
Martin County (Stuart)
Treasure Coast (Port St. Lucie)
Belleview High
Fort Pierce Westwood
Jensen Beach
Port St. Lucie
South Fork (Stuart)
John Carroll (Fort Pierce)

Region 3
District 33
Springstead (Spring Hill)
South Sumter (Bushnell)
Villages
Weeki Wachee
Wildwood
Citrus (Inverness)
Lecanto
Crystal River

District 34
Hernando (Brooksville)
Central (Brooksville)
Nature Coast (Brooksville)
Land O Lakes
Wiregrass Ranch (Wesley Chapel)
Fivay (Hudson)
Bishop McLaughlin (Spring Hill)
Hudson

District 35
Sunlake (Land O'Lakes)
Gulf (New Port Richey)
River Ridge (New Port Richey)
Cypress Creek (Wesley Chapel)
Pasco (Dade City)
Wesley Chapel
Zephyrhills
Zephyrhills Christian

District 36
Anclote (Holiday)
East Lake (Tarpon Springs)
Palm Harbor University
Calvary Christian (Clearwater)
Indian Rocks Christian (Largo)
Mitchell (New Port Richey)
George Steinbrenner (Lutz)
Sickles (Tampa)

District 37
Clearwater
Dunedin
Countryside (Clearwater)
Largo
Osceola (Seminole)
Seminole (Seminole)
Pinellas Park (Largo)
Clearwater Central Catholic

District 38
Hollins (St. Petersburg)
Northeast (St. Petersburg)
St. Petersburg
Boca Ciega (Gulfport)
Gibbs (St. Petersburg)
Lakewood (St. Petersburg)
Northside Christian (St. Petersburg)
St. Petersburg Catholic

District 39
Alonso (Tampa)
Plant (Tampa)
Plant City
Strawberry Crest (Dover)
Durant (Plant City)
Newsome (Lithia)
Riverview (Riverview)
Sumner (Riverview)

District 40
Armwood (Seffner)
Freedom (Tampa)
Tampa Bay Tech
Wharton (Tampa)
Gaither (Tampa)
Hillsborough (Tampa)
Jesuit (Tampa)
Leto (Tampa)

District 41
Bloomingdale (Valrico)
East Bay (Gibsonton)
Lennard (Ruskin)
Spoto (Riverview)
Brandon
Chamberlain (Tampa)
King (Tampa)
Middleton (Tampa)

District 42
Blake (Tampa)
Jefferson (Tampa)
Robinson (Tampa)
Tampa Catholic
Berkeley Prep (Tampa)
Cambridge (Tampa)
Carrollwood (Tampa)
Seffner Christian

District 43
Lakewood Ranch (Bradenton)
Manatee (Bradenton)
Palmetto
Braden River (Bradenton)
Parrish
Southeast (Bradenton)
Hardee (Wauchula)
Bayshore (Bradenton)

District 44
Riverview (Sarasota)
Sarasota
Venice
Charlotte (Punta Gorda)
Port Charlotte
Booker (Sarasota)
DeSoto County (Arcadia)
Cardinal Mooney (Sarasota)

District 45
Immokalee
Sebring
Avon Park
Clewiston
Lake Placid
Lemon Bay (Englewood)
Moore Haven

District 46
Ida Baker (Cape Coral)
Riverdale (Fort Myers)
Cape Coral
Island Coast (Cape Coral)
Mariner (Cape Coral)
North Fort Myers

District 47
Cypress Lake (Fort Myers)
Dunbar (Fort Myers)
Fort Myers
Bishop Verot (Fort Myers)
Gateway (Fort Myers)
Evangelical Christian (Fort Myers)

District 48
Lehigh (Lehigh Acres)
East Lee County (Lehigh Acres)
South Fort Myers
Bonita Springs
Estero
Southwest Florida Christian (Fort Myers)

Region 4
District 49
Gulf Coast (Naples)
Palmetto Ridge (Naples)
Barron Collier (Naples)
Golden Gate (Naples)
Lely (Naples)
Naples
Community School (Naples)
First Baptist (Naples)
St. John Neumann (Naples)

District 50
Royal Palm Beach
Palm Beach Central (Wellington)
Wellington
Seminole Ridge (Westlake)
Glades Central (Belle Glade)
Kings Academy (West Palm Beach)
Glades Day (Belle Glade)
Pahokee

District 51
Jupiter
Palm Beach Gardens
Palm Beach Lakes (West Palm Beach)
Dwyer (Palm Beach Gardens)
Inlet Grove (Riviera Beach)
Suncoast (Riviera Beach)
Benjamin (Palm Beach Gardens)
Cardinal Newman (West Palm Beach)

District 52
Forest Hill (West Palm Beach)
John I. Leonard (Greenacres)
Lake Worth
Park Vista (Lake Worth)
Atlantic (Delray Beach)
American Heritage (Delray Beach)
Boynton Beach
Somerset Canyons (Boynton Beach)

District 53
Boca Raton
Santaluces (Lantana)
Olympic Heights (Boca Raton)
West Boca Raton
St. Andrews (Boca Raton)
SLAM (West Palm Beach)
St. John Paul II (Boca Raton)

District 54
Coral Springs
Douglas (Parkland)
Monarch (Coconut Creek)
Coral Glades (Coral Springs)
Coconut Creek
Deerfield Beach
Coral Springs Charter
North Broward Prep (Coconut Creek)

District 55
Taravella (Coral Springs)
Blanche Ely (Pompano Beach)
Boyd Anderson (Lauderdale Lakes)
Piper (Sunrise)
Calvary Christian Academy (Fort Lauderdale)
Northeast (Oakland Park)
Pine Crest (Fort Lauderdale)
Cardinal Gibbons (Fort Lauderdale)

District 56
Dillard (Fort Lauderdale)
Fort Lauderdale
St. Thomas Aquinas (Fort Lauderdale)
Nova (Davie)
Plantation
South Plantation
Hollywood Hills
Stranahan (Fort Lauderdale)

District 57
Western (Davie)
Flanagan (Pembroke Pines)
American Heritage (Plantation)
Cypress Bay (Weston)
Cooper City
South Broward (Hollywood)
Avant Garde (Hollywood)
Pembroke Pines Charter

District 58
Somerset Academy (Pembroke Pines)
West Broward (Pembroke Pines)
McArthur (Hollywood)
Everglades (Miramar)
Miramar
Hallandale
Chaminade-Madonna (Hollywood)
Somerset Academy Key (Deerfield Beach)

District 59
Dr. Krop (Miami)
American (Hialeah)
Miami Carol City
Miami Norland
Monsignor Pace (Miami)
North Miami Beach
Dade Christian (Miami)
True North (Miami)

District 60
Goleman (Miami)
Hialeah
Mater Academy (Hialeah Gardens)
North Miami
Miami Central
Miami Edison
Miami Jackson
Miami Northwestern

District 61
Doral Academy
Miami
Miami Beach
Miami Springs
Washington (Miami)
Columbus (Miami)
Belen Jesuit (Miami)

District 62
Coral Gables
South Miami
Immaculata-LaSalle (Miami)
St. Brendan (Miami)
Westland Hialeah
Florida Christian (Miami)

District 63
South Dade (Homestead)
Miami Palmetto
Miami Killian
Westminster Christian (Miami)
Southwest Miami
Gulliver Prep (Pinecrest)
Archbishop Carroll (Miami)

District 64
Homestead
Miami Southridge
Somerset Charter (Silver Palms)
Palm Glades Prep (Miami)
Palmer Trinity (Miami)
Somerset Academy Charter South Homestead
Key West

[nolebull813]

@Nulli Secundus this is outstanding. I agree with this 100 percent. 

imagine in track, the top runners ran the 100 meters in 9-10 seconds. Now just imagine if they broke up the winners by how fast you ran. Meaning there is a 9-10 second champ. A 10.1-10.5 second champ, a 10.6-11.0 champ and so on. That’s how stupid 9 “state” champions sounds.

We need one true state champion. 

[nolebull813]

Imagine if you came from a small rural town and were interviewing for a job and they said they had a specific amount of openings. And you said to the hiring manager that you should only have to compete against the applicants from a small rural town. Lol. That’s what it sounds like to have multiple classifications. 

[Dr. D]

Just for comparison, are there other states that do this, and how is it received?  Kentucky comes to mind in high school basketball, but I am not aware of any other states that have a single championship bracket in football.

[nolebull813]

21 minutes ago, Dr. D said:

Just for comparison, are there other states that do this, and how is it received?  Kentucky comes to mind in high school basketball, but I am not aware of any other states that have a single championship bracket in football.

No there isn’t any for football. Some small states only have 2 or 3. But that’s more of the fact they don’t have a lot of teams 

[nolebull813]

Utah has got to be the worst in the country. They have 6 classes and only 105 teams in the state!!!!!!

[Jullian]

Yeah then everyone’s alarm clock rang & woke up from dreaming to the state governing body, the FHSAA. 

[Longtime Observer]

For an Open division, they need to assemble a committee of people who know the game and follow the sport to vote, like the CFP. I know most are invertebrates who'd rather be able to blame a computer for unpopular decisions. But, the rankings the last two seasons demonstrate they have no clue how to get an algorithm to spit out reasonable results. A committee can answer to the public and the coaches before schedules are set, as well as during the season and after the selections. A computer offers no answers and no guidance to stakeholders.