2018 Columbia Football

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All these should be viewable articles that talk about what Columbia has going into the season in different ways

 

 

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Making a thread for Columbia for upcoming season

 

 

Preview from Gainesville sun

 

 

Lol idk why they call Lee a rival,  they just another flash in the pan like Ed White was,  they having 2 good years but eventually will fall apart and another team will rise up and cause us problems

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On 8/2/2018 at 9:09 PM, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

Young but talented and Athletic qb

 

2 WR with multiple power 5 offers as well as several more very talented but underrated guys leaves that WR postion very deep

 

Not to mention the RB we have is Columbia royalty (his father was RB for our 97 state runner up team) and is a very good RB, good mix of speed and power

 

Defense is very experienced especially at linebacker spot with 3 seniors starting and for first time since 2015 we will not have to replace 4 starters in the secondary,  in fact i think only 1 of the 4 starters from last year won't return this year

 

We also had 2 transfers on defense that should help us in passing game,  one is a OLB/Pass rush specialist and the other is a safety 

 

Our biggest issues in playoffs usually come from our inability to stop opponents from getting tons of passing yards or qb scrambling for mess of yards,  the defense should be much better in both departments this year

 

Quite honestly if we don't make final 4 at minimum this will go down as the biggest underachieving year in my lifetime at columbia, they should finish no less than state semifinals with the amount of talent on this roster

 

We probably need to keep growing on the lines but I'm optimistic considering what I've been seeing through piecing together newspaper clippings throughout the summer and reading up our strengths and weaknesses heading into the season

 

 

 

My writeup on Columbia heading into the season 

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5 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

My writeup on Columbia heading into the season 

Good luck. I hope Columbia makes the state title game. Win or lose I know that would be a cool experience for you!

[OldSchoolLion]

7 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

Making a thread for Columbia for upcoming season

 

 

Preview from Gainesville sun

 

 

Lol idk why they call Lee a rival,  they just another flash in the pan like Ed White was,  they having 2 good years but eventually will fall apart and another team will rise up and cause us problems

Gosh you sure are harsh on those teams up your way.  By the way, would have been nice to have a picture with all of the district title trophies in the background

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On 8/3/2018 at 11:08 AM, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

All these should be viewable articles that talk about what Columbia has going into the season in different ways

 

 

Here a transfer of a few articles over to this thread 

[OldSchoolLion]

8 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

My writeup on Columbia heading into the season 

Our biggest issues in playoffs usually come from our inability to stop opponents from getting tons of passing yards or qb scrambling for mess of yards, 

You better watch out for Fletcher in regular season.  They are going to have quite the passing tandem.  Jeremiah Payton is a 4-star WR and UM commit.  And Devon Lingle, one of the top junior QB's in the state, is a 3-star recruit who already has multiple FBS offers.

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5 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:

Gosh you sure are harsh on those teams up your way.  By the way, would have been nice to have a picture with all of the district title trophies in the background

Harse but honest 

 

Until their state semifinals run 2 seasons ago they hadn't won a playoff game in 20 years 

 

It's obvious they aren't this powerhouse program, they are a team that got a bunch of players transfer in from the westside as Ed White fell apart

They having their run now but it will end eventually 

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4 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:

You better watch out for Fletcher in regular season.  They are going to have quite the passing tandem.  Jeremiah Payton is a 4-star WR and UM commit.  And Devon Lingle, one of the top junior QB's in the state, is a 3-star recruit who already has multiple FBS offers.

Well I'll get to see them when they come into Lake City 

 

Hopefully they won't try to start a fight with us before the game like Fletcher did last time 

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3 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

Well I'll get to see them when they come into Lake City 

 

Hopefully they won't try to start a fight with us before the game like Fletcher did last time 

...so, Lee is a flash in the pan, Fletcher is troublemakers....anyone else to disparage this fine Saturday morning.

 

[OldSchoolLion]

6 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

Harse but honest 

 

Until their state semifinals run 2 seasons ago they hadn't won a playoff game in 20 years 

 

It's obvious they aren't this powerhouse program, they are a team that got a bunch of players transfer in from the westside as Ed White fell apart

They having their run now but it will end eventually 

It appears to me that Lee has a head coach who has invested 7 years in the program and has had 4 winning seasons in a row. That sounds like potential for more than a flash in the pan.   I joke a lot, but seriously in this case, please consider the hard work of the coaching staff and players at Lee.  Attributing their success to transfers is not showing consideration for such things.  

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28 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:

It appears to me that Lee has a head coach who has invested 7 years in the program and has had 4 winning seasons in a row. That sounds like potential for more than a flash in the pan.   I joke a lot, but seriously in this case, please consider the hard work of the coaching staff and players at Lee.  Attributing their success to transfers is not showing consideration for such things.  

Yeah they looked better under their coach then in the past but it wasn't until Ed White fell apart that they suddenly became a contender

 

 

That's how it is in Jacksonville area,  the programs that are hot get all the top guys and feed off of the struggling programs, once Lee was a feeder for schools on the westside like Ed White, Raines and even First coast even though first coast is more on the North side of Jacksonville 

 

Now Lee is the beneficiary but these publics in duval outside of raines and sometimes ribault tend to have a few good years then fall apart

 

Look how fast First Coast and Ed White fell apart,  in 2014 both teams went to 3rd round and were District champs 

 

In 2015 both missed playoffs, finished below .500 and finished 3rd or lower in district

 

 

And both of them were good teams for several years 

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45 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:

...so, Lee is a flash in the pan, Fletcher is troublemakers....anyone else to disparage this fine Saturday morning.

 

I'm not trying to disparage anyone 

 

Since when did honesty mean negativity 

 

 

Both are solid programs but I'm just pointing out facts,  it's nothing different then when people point out our playoff record 

 

I could have said things that would really be considered disparage remarks towards them, all I'm saying is Lee was a program that became popular overnight (which is true) and that Fletcher came into Lake City 2 years ago trying to play mind games with us but it failed miserably and really backfired on them

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8 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

Yeah they looked better under their coach then in the past but it wasn't until Ed White fell apart that they suddenly became a contender

 

 

That's how it is in Jacksonville area,  the programs that are hot get all the top guys and feed off of the struggling programs, once Lee was a feeder for schools on the westside like Ed White, Raines and even First coast even though first coast is more on the North side of Jacksonville 

 

Now Lee is the beneficiary but these publics in duval outside of raines and sometimes ribault tend to have a few good years then fall apart

 

Look how fast First Coast and Ed White fell apart,  in 2014 both teams went to 3rd round and were District champs 

 

In 2015 both missed playoffs, finished below .500 and finished 3rd or lower in district

 

 

And both of them were good teams for several years 

Same year that First Coast and Ed White falls apart Lee makes playoffs again and following year Lee makes state semifinals 

 

@OldSchoolLion you can't tell me that those 2 falling apart had nothing to do with Lee recent success 

 

It's a domino effect in duval 

 

When one or 2 teams falls apart in one area another takes their place 

 

Duval got plenty of talent but lts always condensed into a few schools and the remaining ones just try the best they can to stay afloat until they become hot place to be 

[OldSchoolLion]

1 minute ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

Same year that First Coast and Ed White falls apart Lee makes playoffs again and following year Lee makes state semifinals 

 

@OldSchoolLion you can't tell me that those 2 falling apart had nothing to do with Lee recent success 

 

It's a domino effect in duval 

 

When one or 2 teams falls apart in one area another takes their place 

 

Duval got plenty of talent but lts always condensed into a few schools and the remaining ones just try the best they can to stay afloat until they become hot place to be 

ColumbiaFan, it would be nice to hear you speak of teams in the Jacksonville area whose hard work is clearly paying off, if not in spectacular fashion, at least in terms of progress.  Your comments now and in the past make it sound as Jacksonville is a hopeless place and, as a coach, I may as well not even try that hard...just wait for the winds to shift in my favor.

If one wishes to be publicly respected for developing rankings, it is important to be perceived as one with minimal bias. One must choose what they want to be...a home-town homer or an objective evaluator of talent.  One cannot be both successfully.   

If you truly believe Fletcher has troublemakers in their ranks, fair enough. But by publicly stating such things, I have now lost faith in your ability to objectively evaluate them in the future.  The fact that you went out of your way to mention the fight publicly tells the world you have an axe to grind, regardless of your intention.

  

 

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6 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:

ColumbiaFan, it would be nice to hear you speak of teams in the Jacksonville area whose hard work is clearly paying off, if not in spectacular fashion, at least in terms of progress.  Your comments now and in the past make it sound as Jacksonville is a hopeless place and, as a coach, I may as well not even try that hard...just wait for the winds to shift in my favor.

If one wishes to be publicly respected for developing rankings, it is important to be perceived as one with minimal bias. One must choose what they want to be...a home-town homer or an objective evaluator of talent.  One cannot be both successfully.   

If you truly believe Fletcher has troublemakers in their ranks, fair enough. But by publicly stating such things, I have now lost faith in your ability to objectively evaluate them in the future.  The fact that you went out of your way to mention the fight publicly tells the world you have an axe to grind, regardless of your intention.

  

 

I never said that,  what i said is that hopefully this time around they will be smarter then to try and start trouble before a game 

 

In fact I was actually surprised by their actions because i always to that point thought of Fletcher as a program that was one that would never try antics like that,  but it was a one time thing 

 

All i ever said was i hope they won't try to start a fight this time around

 

I think you are overthinking what I'm saying 

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12 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:

ColumbiaFan, it would be nice to hear you speak of teams in the Jacksonville area whose hard work is clearly paying off, if not in spectacular fashion, at least in terms of progress.  Your comments now and in the past make it sound as Jacksonville is a hopeless place and, as a coach, I may as well not even try that hard...just wait for the winds to shift in my favor.

If one wishes to be publicly respected for developing rankings, it is important to be perceived as one with minimal bias. One must choose what they want to be...a home-town homer or an objective evaluator of talent.  One cannot be both successfully.   

If you truly believe Fletcher has troublemakers in their ranks, fair enough. But by publicly stating such things, I have now lost faith in your ability to objectively evaluate them in the future.  The fact that you went out of your way to mention the fight publicly tells the world you have an axe to grind, regardless of your intention.

  

 

Again i never said this

 

I have commented on a lack of stability which is my opinion for why duval has some teams loaded in talent and so many that struggle 

 

I have also stated that i feel publics in duval tend to not have long term success in which i have provided examples to back up my argument 

 

Could Lee maintain it's success?  Perhaps 

 

Has their coach turned them around?  Absolutely 

 

 

But i still feel that i have a hard time seeing them as a long term powerhouse mainly because I hear same things about Lee now that i heard about Ed White 5 years ago and it eventually fell apart because overall the duval area lacks stability unless you a private school like Bolles, Trinity Christian or University Christian 

 

Raines,  Ribault and sandalwood have had some success for a extended period as did Fletcher until a few years ago but the majority of schools in duval go from good to bad to good to bad very quickly 

 

Again see First Coast and Ed White examples 

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A dollar says that this will be the first of about 11 posts regarding Columbia High School, don't tempt us with the idea that you can keep Columbia to one single thread. 

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Just now, gatorman-uf said:

A dollar says that this will be the first of about 11 posts regarding Columbia High School, don't tempt us with the idea that you can keep Columbia to one single thread. 

I'll have separate threads made for games but I'm going to start putting any articles or opinions related to Columbia in here

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21 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:

ColumbiaFan, it would be nice to hear you speak of teams in the Jacksonville area whose hard work is clearly paying off, if not in spectacular fashion, at least in terms of progress.  Your comments now and in the past make it sound as Jacksonville is a hopeless place and, as a coach, I may as well not even try that hard...just wait for the winds to shift in my favor.

If one wishes to be publicly respected for developing rankings, it is important to be perceived as one with minimal bias. One must choose what they want to be...a home-town homer or an objective evaluator of talent.  One cannot be both successfully.   

If you truly believe Fletcher has troublemakers in their ranks, fair enough. But by publicly stating such things, I have now lost faith in your ability to objectively evaluate them in the future.  The fact that you went out of your way to mention the fight publicly tells the world you have an axe to grind, regardless of your intention.

  

 

Jacksonville area (duval/St John's/Clay) top 10

1 Raines    4A
2 St Augustine    6A
3 Trinity Christian   5A
4 Lee   7A
5 Bolles    5A
6 Clay   5A
7 Fleming Island   7A
8 Fletcher   7A
9 Bartram Trail   7A
10 Menendez  5A

 

Considering how high i had Lee and Fletcher in my area Rankings i would say i could actually put aside my personal opinion of them and my professional opinion 

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In fact i think Fletcher makes playoffs this year, i just don't see them beating us or Lee but they probably win rest of their games

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1 minute ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

I'll have separate threads made for games but I'm going to start putting any articles or opinions related to Columbia in here

Already going back on your original quote, but okay, still willing to bet that you will not be able to keep your thoughts on Columbia High School to just those threads. You will find a find a way to add Columbia into almost any conversation. 
 

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2 minutes ago, gatorman-uf said:

Already going back on your original quote, but okay, still willing to bet that you will not be able to keep your thoughts on Columbia High School to just those threads. You will find a find a way to add Columbia into almost any conversation. 
 

Well i could put the game stuff in here but it would probably become a mess lol

[OldSchoolLion]

1 minute ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

In fact i think Fletcher makes playoffs this year, i just don't see them beating us or Lee but they probably win rest of their games

You are so busy dissecting my message you completely missed the message.  But I am sure you will next try to demonstrate to me how you better understood the intent of my message than even I did.  I have no more energy to explain, so let's move on please. 

Good luck with married life, my friend.  As married men on the board will attest to, the opposite gender has a unique way of communicating that can cause us dumb males much grief, until we eventually figure it out.  Listen for the message, and not just the words.