Gadsden County

[gatorman-uf]

For all you that told me the new system is better that nothing stupid can happen in the new system that horrible teams can't make the playoffs in the new system.

I present a currently 0-8 Gadsden County, who probably will not play Rutherford as Rutherford recovers from the hurricane and will probably lose to Gulf Breeze, which will cause it to be a Tier 1 loss for 38 points. This will bump Gadsden County (4A team) to 28.6 (after next week) and sitting 7th in a region that takes the top 6 teams. Andrew Jackson with a loss this week and a loss next to Stanton could fall to 28.7 with lots of their wins/losses on the bubble. Honestly, I hope Gadsden makes it so we can realize how silly this system is. 

[OldSchoolLion]

7 hours ago, gatorman-uf said:

For all you that told me the new system is better that nothing stupid can happen in the new system that horrible teams can't make the playoffs in the new system.

I present a currently 0-8 Gadsden County, who probably will not play Rutherford as Rutherford recovers from the hurricane and will probably lose to Gulf Breeze, which will cause it to be a Tier 1 loss for 38 points. This will bump Gadsden County (4A team) to 28.6 (after next week) and sitting 7th in a region that takes the top 6 teams. Andrew Jackson with a loss this week and a loss next to Stanton could fall to 28.7 with lots of their wins/losses on the bubble. Honestly, I hope Gadsden makes it so we can realize how silly this system is. 

Maybe the bigger problem is Class 4A in general, especially Region 1.  It looks like at least half of the teams that will make the 4A playoffs will have 4 or more losses.  And Region 1 will have at least 2 teams with losing records make the playoffs.  Jackson lost to West Nassau this week, so your scenario may play out.  Regardless of who makes it, it won't look pretty from an outsider perspective. 

 

[DisabledAccount]

7 hours ago, gatorman-uf said:

For all you that told me the new system is better that nothing stupid can happen in the new system that horrible teams can't make the playoffs in the new system.

I present a currently 0-8 Gadsden County, who probably will not play Rutherford as Rutherford recovers from the hurricane and will probably lose to Gulf Breeze, which will cause it to be a Tier 1 loss for 38 points. This will bump Gadsden County (4A team) to 28.6 (after next week) and sitting 7th in a region that takes the top 6 teams. Andrew Jackson with a loss this week and a loss next to Stanton could fall to 28.7 with lots of their wins/losses on the bubble. Honestly, I hope Gadsden makes it so we can realize how silly this system is. 

You know what would have fixed this?  Not having so many teams who are always looking to game the system,  we have small districts because a few schools couldn't handle a little travel or a slightly tougher district 

 

Thats what created the mess that made the old runner up system out of date and ineffective 

 

 

Every issue i see with the system is in 1-4a in a large part because districts were eliminated 

 

They need to either increase the number of teams in each region (perhaps go to 2 regions instead of 4 in 1-4a) or bring back districts

 

I did a proposal a while back which used this idea of cutting down not only the district numbers in each region from 4 to 3 but also made 2 regions instead of 4 in 1-4a classes

 

That is how this issue could be fixed,  the problem is that there isn't enough teams in these regions

[nolebull813]

The FHSAA is greedy and corrupt and doesn't give a damn about student athletes. They only make decisions that line their pockets. 

Proof is in the pudding. The non stop keep adding classes to all sports so they can extort more money for all the extra playoff games. 

The playoffs will never be better no matter what they do until they eliminate 2-3 classes minimum 

[DisabledAccount]

9 minutes ago, nolebull813 said:

The FHSAA is greedy and corrupt and doesn't give a damn about student athletes. They only make decisions that line their pockets. 

Proof is in the pudding. The non stop keep adding classes to all sports so they can extort more money for all the extra playoff games. 

The playoffs will never be better no matter what they do until they eliminate 2-3 classes minimum 

Nolebull you are aware the fhsaa is actually cutting 2 classes to several sports and football could end up being next right? 

[badbird]

too many teams making the playoffs and not enough teams in the regions  in 1A-4A has created this.  

[DisabledAccount]

Just now, badbird said:

too many teams making the playoffs and not enough teams in the regions  in 1A-4A has created this.  

You think 8 teams is too many in 5-8a?

 

I agree though with the small regions in 1-4a being a major issue that needs to be fixed

[badbird]

1 minute ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

You think 8 teams is too many in 5-8a?

 

I agree though with the small regions in 1-4a being a major issue that needs to be fixed

no 8 is fine.  But 6 in 1A-4A means 24 teams make it and there are only 30 plus in each class.

[DisabledAccount]

Just now, badbird said:

no 8 is fine.  But 6 in 1A-4A means 24 teams make it and there are only 30 plus in each class.

My feeling is 6 wouldn't be so bad if they made 2 regions instead of 4 (which would mean 12 per class) 

 

Hell they could do 8 per region if they were to go to 2 regions and have 16 per classification 

 

Either way it may be better to cut regions in half for the small classifications

[SPCjessica2004]

Personally, I wouldn't touch 1a-4a.  I'm in favor of 6 teams making the playoffs from each region if it means a team like Booker T. isn't left out.  What I'm against is giving teams that lose to cat 1 teams 35 points for a loss.  I think a good balance would be one or the other, not both.

[badbird]

Just now, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

My feeling is 6 wouldn't be so bad if they made 2 regions instead of 4 (which would mean 12 per class) 

 

Hell they could do 8 per region if they were to go to 2 regions and have 16 per classification 

 

Either way it may be better to cut regions in half for the small classifications

do like other sports.  keep 1A the same and cut classes and divide evenly.  That would fix most problems

[DisabledAccount]

Just now, badbird said:

do like other sports.  keep 1A the same and cut classes and divide evenly.  That would fix most problems

Problem is even the 1a setup has too many teams getting in especially when they are so insistent on keeping a 600 cutoff

 

Either they need to raise cutoff or they need to go to 2 regions for 1a

 

If it keeps going soon you will have regions of only 6 or 7 teams and everyone will be in playoffs for 1a 

[DisabledAccount]

3 minutes ago, SPCjessica2004 said:

Personally, I wouldn't touch 1a-4a.  I'm in favor of 6 teams making the playoffs from each region if it means a team like Booker T. isn't left out.  What I'm against is giving teams that lose to cat 1 teams 35 points for a loss.  I think a good balance would be one or the other, not both.

I think something they should consider is lowering loss totals back to the numbers they had last year then giving a increase to wins over cat 1 and cat 2

 

So something like this 

 

Cat 1 

 

Win: 60 points 

Loss 30 points

 

 

Cat 2

 

Win: 50 points 

Loss: 25 points

 

 

Cat 3

 

Win: 40 points

Loss: 20 points 

 

 

Cat 4

 

Win: 35 points

Loss: 15 points 

[gatorman-uf]

Just want to bring this back because Gadsden County (winless for the season) is now in a coin flip situation with Andrew Jackson. 

Tell me again how this is better than the old system. A gosh darn winless team is about to make the playoffs, because there is no tie breaker that says total number of wins over Category 4 teams. I will simply say I told you so.

[DisabledAccount]

2 minutes ago, gatorman-uf said:

Just want to bring this back because Gadsden County (winless for the season) is now in a coin flip situation with Andrew Jackson. 

Tell me again how this is better than the old system. A gosh darn winless team is about to make the playoffs, because there is no tie breaker that says total number of wins over Category 4 teams. I will simply say I told you so.

Ok since you commented on this take a look at my above post and tell me if those point totals would fix the problems?

[OldSchoolLion]

Gadsden played teams from the following classes:

7A-2

6A-1

5A-4

4A-1

3A-1

Jackson played teams from the following classes:

7A-1

6A-1

5A-2

4A-2

3A-2

1A-1

[WhatsUpDoc]

Who came up or suggested this stupid point sytem rule? How come the schools did not ADD to the policy that a team must have so many wins in order to qualify for the playoffs and if they don’t the next team gets in!! Milking the system is what will be the norm. Oh yea let’s let them in as a participation trophy!!!!