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On 8/29/2024 at 8:26 AM, CoachGraham said:

It is very interesting to me. If they go  6-4 or better this year, do they pull at least *some* kids from other schools in the coming years? Maybe some kids will want to go to the shiny new school for other reasons (such as facilities), but with no program history not many kids will want to go for the athletic program itself. I am fascinated to see how it plays out going forward.

Innovations was built to relieve Lake Nona which had become the largest high school in the Orlando area and one of the largest in the state. I am sure some of the Lake Nona talent may go there if they show they are as good. 

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The only way any of those teams like Innovation, Windermere, Colonial, University, Freedom etc and all the other really bad JV type teams in Orlando can ever be competitive, they would need a coach that knows how to bring ALL the talent from the surrounding area. Kinda like how Edgewater and Jones were able to be. They got coaches that were able to attract a bulk of the talent in the area. 

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11 hours ago, nolebull813 said:

The only way any of those teams like Innovation, Windermere, Colonial, University, Freedom etc and all the other really bad JV type teams in Orlando can ever be competitive, they would need a coach that knows how to bring ALL the talent from the surrounding area. Kinda like how Edgewater and Jones were able to be. They got coaches that were able to attract a bulk of the talent in the area. 

Windermere is 8-0 and will likely end the season 10-0. The only bad result on their schedule to date is a very close win over a very bad Colonial. All the other wins are decent and would likely put them into the mid tier category in Central Florida. It would not be very difficult for them to attract West Orange's and Ocoee's talent if they had a creative coaching staff in place. 

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4 hours ago, DarterBlue2 said:

Windermere is 8-0 and will likely end the season 10-0. The only bad result on their schedule to date is a very close win over a very bad Colonial. All the other wins are decent and would likely put them into the mid tier category in Central Florida. It would not be very difficult for them to attract West Orange's and Ocoee's talent if they had a creative coaching staff in place. 

Not close. They would lose via the running clock to any team with a pulse. They played the worst schedule in Central Florida tied for worst with all the teams they played. Lol. I’m not sure they beat a team in the state top 400. 
 

You must not know how bad that football really is. Windermere would lose to above average teams JV team! 

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On 10/21/2024 at 5:48 AM, DarterBlue2 said:

Windermere is 8-0 and will likely end the season 10-0. The only bad result on their schedule to date is a very close win over a very bad Colonial. All the other wins are decent and would likely put them into the mid tier category in Central Florida. It would not be very difficult for them to attract West Orange's and Ocoee's talent if they had a creative coaching staff in place. 

This is why you should always go independent rather than 0-10 with a district schedule.  I've seen plenty of teams go independent after heavy attrition, have a couple of winning seasons against light competition to rebuild, and then go on to win a district title or winning season when they came back to the FHSAA.  The teams that don't go independent though can never seem to break that bad cycle they're in.  

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6 hours ago, PinellasFB said:

This is why you should always go independent rather than 0-10 with a district schedule.  I've seen plenty of teams go independent after heavy attrition, have a couple of winning seasons against light competition to rebuild, and then go on to win a district title or winning season when they came back to the FHSAA.  The teams that don't go independent though can never seem to break that bad cycle they're in.  

Land O Lakes a few years ago went independent finished 9–1, and then jump back into districts and won the district title finishing the season at 9–2

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6 hours ago, PinellasFB said:

This is why you should always go independent rather than 0-10 with a district schedule.  I've seen plenty of teams go independent after heavy attrition, have a couple of winning seasons against light competition to rebuild, and then go on to win a district title or winning season when they came back to the FHSAA.  The teams that don't go independent though can never seem to break that bad cycle they're in.  

And for a team like Windermere, who will never win a state championship, it is better to go 10–0 as an independent then go 5–6 and lose by 40 in the first round every year. 

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12 hours ago, nolebull813 said:

And for a team like Windermere, who will never win a state championship, it is better to go 10–0 as an independent then go 5–6 and lose by 40 in the first round every year. 

There are a couple of local Pinellas teams that should go independent but refuse to for some reason. Dunedin tries their best but they just don't have impact players because anybody who is good transfers to Clearwater or one of the privates.  Countryside HS has absolutely collapsed. They were a decent playoff level team as recently as three years ago but really fell off a cliff and lost all of it's players to transfers this year.  Now they have a bunch of freshman playing on varsity and they are basically a JV squad going against varsity.  I don't know why they didn't go independent this year and now are losing every game 50-0.

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55 minutes ago, PinellasFB said:

There are a couple of local Pinellas teams that should go independent but refuse to for some reason. Dunedin tries their best but they just don't have impact players because anybody who is good transfers to Clearwater or one of the privates.  Countryside HS has absolutely collapsed. They were a decent playoff level team as recently as three years ago but really fell off a cliff and lost all of it's players to transfers this year.  Now they have a bunch of freshman playing on varsity and they are basically a JV squad going against varsity.  I don't know why they didn't go independent this year and now are losing every game 50-0.

Crazy. Yeah usually kids will migrate toward the hot team or teams especially when there are a countless amount of programs in a highly populated area. 
 

So the teams who only had a few good players to begin with lose them to the hot hand creating a bigger gap. 
 

Half of a coaches success is just keeping his own talent home!! 

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5 hours ago, nolebull813 said:

Crazy. Yeah usually kids will migrate toward the hot team or teams especially when there are a countless amount of programs in a highly populated area. 
 

 
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So the teams who only had a few good players to begin with lose them to the hot hand creating a bigger gap. 
 

 
 

 

Half of a coaches success is just keeping his own talent home!! 

Wow, I just can't believe that nobody predicted that would happen.   B)

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On 10/22/2024 at 8:38 PM, nolebull813 said:

And for a team like Windermere, who will never win a state championship, it is better to go 10–0 as an independent then go 5–6 and lose by 40 in the first round every year. 

To say that Windermere will never win a state championship (as in forever) is one of the most ignorant posts I have ever seen you make (and believe me, I have seen you make very ignorant posts before). Do you even comprehend what forever means? 

Neighborhoods change. Rules change. How can anyone in their right mind even think to say that so and so will never happen? You can attach probabilities to such and such an event not happening over relatively short timespans. To make such sweeping predictions from here to eternity is indicative of one with a mind thoroughly lacking in any type of imagination. 

Over the past 25 years, despite the super teams, despite all the forces aligned to make it more difficult for teams from areas with small population densities, I have seen teams that were once cellar dwellers rise to become contenders and I have also seen teams that were contenders most years, fall off the radar entirely. 

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Week 11 

Innovation 0, Lake Nona 44

KIPP Bold City 7, Williston 49

Milton Central 34, Wewa 29

Old Plank 38, Cornerstone Charter 28 (SSAA playoffs)

Sarasota Christian 28, Cambridge Christian 41 (SSAA Playoffs)



next week
 

(6-4) Old Plank - vs Lighhouse Christian 2nd round SSAA playoffs 

(6-4) Sarasota Christian - schedule complete 

(5-5) Innovation - Schedule complete 

(1-7) Milton Central - Schedule complete

(1-9) KIPP Bold City - Schedule complete 

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