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On 4/16/2024 at 3:53 PM, nolebull813 said:

Seeing these teams pop up on 11 man schedules. Anyone  else? 

 

Kipp Bold City (Jacksonville)

Sarasota Christian 

Old Plank Christian (Jacksonville)

KIPP is new and will be fielding a team for sure.

Sarasota Christian and Old Plank are moving up from SSAA 8-Man to SSAA 11-Man

Innovation in Orlando will be the newest public high school in the state.

In 2026 Sounside in Gulf Breeze will open as the Soundside Hurricanes. First new school in Santa Rosa County in 25 years when Navarre opened in 2001.

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1 hour ago, nolebull813 said:

Ok updated. Surprising that more public schools haven’t opened with all the new people that come to FL. I read something that 1,000 per day moved here in 2023

Broward has a lot of under utilized public school space right now, they are talking about actually closing some schools at various levels. I think the charters and private schools are taking many of the kids these days.

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3 hours ago, flabuck said:

Broward has a lot of under utilized public school space right now, they are talking about actually closing some schools at various levels. I think the charters and private schools are taking many of the kids these days.

Understandable. I love the school choice idea. It will only help public schools. Once the privates take enough kids, the public schools could tighten ship and only keep the best teachers. It will be addition by subtraction 

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12 hours ago, nolebull813 said:

Understandable. I love the school choice idea. It will only help public schools. Once the privates take enough kids, the public schools could tighten ship and only keep the best teachers. It will be addition by subtraction 

Or the private schools will use their combination of private money and public money (i.e., vouchers) to hire away the best teachers, leaving the rest at the public schools to teach those who don't have the resources -- even with the vouchers -- to send their kids to private schools.  Of course, if this happens, there might be a few folks who will brag that it all worked out the way it was planned.  

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3 hours ago, Perspective said:

Or the private schools will use their combination of private money and public money (i.e., vouchers) to hire away the best teachers, leaving the rest at the public schools to teach those who don't have the resources -- even with the vouchers -- to send their kids to private schools.  Of course, if this happens, there might be a few folks who will brag that it all worked out the way it was planned.  

Better to have some kids thrive, then none. Every kid who goes to a private school and thrives is a net benefit to society. Plus your scenario assumes that the private schools don’t already have great teachers taking up all spots available 

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3 hours ago, Perspective said:

Or the private schools will use their combination of private money and public money (i.e., vouchers) to hire away the best teachers, leaving the rest at the public schools to teach those who don't have the resources -- even with the vouchers -- to send their kids to private schools.  Of course, if this happens, there might be a few folks who will brag that it all worked out the way it was planned.  

The biggest problem at public schools right now is 2 things. One, they are hiring radicals who are more interested in indoctrinating kids with extreme ideologies rather teaching them basic fundamental skills to become well rounded adults. And 2, they are not getting rid of the worst students who take from the kids who want to learn. If kids skip school they should be expelled. Drugs. Expelled. Fights. Expelled. They can stay home and do E-learning. But these public schools keep, and sometimes cover up crimes and poor behavior. Get rid of the kids who don’t want to learn. You gotta tighten the ship 

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Week 2 

Innovation (1-0) vs Oak Ridge 

Sarasota Christian (1-0) vs Bell Creek Academy 

Old Plank Christian (0-0) vs Seven Rivers Christian 

Milton Central (0-0) vs Blackshear,AL

KIPP Bold City (0-1) vs First Coast 

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Week 2 

Innovation (1-0) vs Oak Ridge 

Sarasota Christian (1-0) vs Bell Creek Academy 

Old Plank Christian (0-0) vs Seven Rivers Christian 

Milton Central (0-0) vs Blackshear,AL

KIPP Bold City (0-1) vs First Coast 

Innovation has a decent shot at going 2-0. They are the underdog, but have a chance to beat a relatively weak Oak Ridge team. 

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9 hours ago, DarterBlue2 said:

Innovation has a decent shot at going 2-0. They are the underdog, but have a chance to beat a relatively weak Oak Ridge team. 

Their schedule has alot of winnable games. Colonial, Space Coast, University, East River, Cypress Creek, Lake Buena Vista and Windermere. 

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That's smart.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It is very interesting to me. If they go  6-4 or better this year, do they pull at least *some* kids from other schools in the coming years? Maybe some kids will want to go to the shiny new school for other reasons (such as facilities), but with no program history not many kids will want to go for the athletic program itself. I am fascinated to see how it plays out going forward.

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Yeah when you are really bad it’s best to find other really bad teams to play to get your wins up. 
 

Sunlake just north of Tampa went 1-9 the past 2 years. But this year they scheduled 4 of the worst teams they can find. They will go at least 3-1 against them and that winning can breed  excitement and momentum in the offseason. So having a winning season can do multiple things for a perennial loser. It can keep your kids from transferring. It can motivate kids in your school to go out for football. And it can attract other local talent who feels they can win at your program. 
 

I never understood why most losing teams don’t do this. 

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Yeah when you are really bad it’s best to find other really bad teams to play to get your wins up. 
 

Sunlake just north of Tampa went 1-9 the past 2 years. But this year they scheduled 4 of the worst teams they can find. They will go at least 3-1 against them and that winning can breed  excitement and momentum in the offseason. So having a winning season can do multiple things for a perennial loser. It can keep your kids from transferring. It can motivate kids in your school to go out for football. And it can attract other local talent who feels they can win at your program. 
 

I never understood why most losing teams don’t do this. 

I totally agree with this philosophy.  It's much easier to build a program when you have some wins vs going 1-9 every year against a tougher schedule.  Even going free lance for a couple of years to build is fine.

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On 8/31/2024 at 4:34 PM, nolebull813 said:

Week 3 schedule 

 

Innovation vs Space Coast

Sarasota Christian vs Southwest Florida Christian 

Old Plank vs St Joseph

Milton Central vs Baker

KIPP Bold City vs Baldwin 

Week 3. Tough week. 0-5 

Innovation 27, Space Coast 40

Sarasota Christian 6, Southwest Florida Christian 27

Old Plank 14, St Joseph 34

Milton Central 7, Baker 42

KIPP Bold City 0, Baldwin 42

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On 9/8/2024 at 12:22 AM, nolebull813 said:

Week 4 upcoming. 

(2-1) Sarasota Christian vs Cambridge Christian 

(2-1) Old Plank vs Mount Dora Christian 

(1-2) Innovation vs Cypress Creek

(0-2) Milton Central vs Northview

(0-3) KIPP Bold City vs Wolfson 

Week 4 results 

Sarasota Christian 42, Cambridge 32

Old Plank 0, MDCA 51

Innovation 25, Cypress Creek 7

Milton Central 0, Northview 40

KIPP 7, Wolfson 18

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