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Not enough players. This story is an embarrassment. Not because they don’t have enough players, but because a team of this caliber could even qualify for the playoffs. A team who can’t even field a team is qualifying. And what’s worse is they came from a 2 team district which is an embarrassment, and they were runner up to the “champion” who went 2-8 and also qualified for the playoffs. 
 

This is a shame. I’m disgusted how the FHSAA has destroyed football in Florida. 

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I’m actually nauseated at the what the FHSAA has done. 8 classes for 484 teams. Horrible. Here’s how you do it.

Rural Class (Class 1A) 50 smallest publics) 

class 2A (75 smallest privates) 

class 3A-5A  (each have 120 teams in 16 districts which comes out to 7.5 teams per district.)

only champs and runner ups make it.

There is no justification to not have it like this 

 

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9 minutes ago, nolebull813 said:

Not enough players. This story is an embarrassment. Not because they don’t have enough players, but because a team of this caliber could even qualify for the playoffs. A team who can’t even field a team is qualifying. And what’s worse is they came from a 2 team district which is an embarrassment, and they were runner up to the “champion” who went 2-8 and also qualified for the playoffs. 
 

This is a shame. I’m disgusted how the FHSAA has destroyed football in Florida. 

The state leadership made the FHSAA this way 

This is the result of politicians sticking their nose where they aren't qualified to be involved in 

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4 hours ago, nolebull813 said:

Not enough players. This story is an embarrassment. Not because they don’t have enough players, but because a team of this caliber could even qualify for the playoffs. A team who can’t even field a team is qualifying. And what’s worse is they came from a 2 team district which is an embarrassment, and they were runner up to the “champion” who went 2-8 and also qualified for the playoffs. 
 

This is a shame. I’m disgusted how the FHSAA has destroyed football in Florida. 

Man what lol lmao how are you runner up to a team that’s (2-8) and then both of you make the playoffs, that’s just blasphemy. 

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8 hours ago, DILLARDBOYZ954 said:

Man what lol lmao how are you runner up to a team that’s (2-8) and then both of you make the playoffs, that’s just blasphemy. 

One look at the two teams schedules will tell you plenty 

If Trinity Catholic (the 2-8 team) had played Pk Yonge schedule they would have 8 or 9 wins while if Pk Yonge played Trinity Catholic schedule they may have 1 win and then Trinity Catholic (rightfully so) would be the only one making the playoffs from that district 

If anything this shows how the new FHSAA board picked a crappy playoff ranking system and should have stuck with the RPI and metro suburban instead of changing it 

 

1 hour ago, nolebull813 said:

It’s exhibit A in the case for the FHSAA to disband and dissolve 

Also exhibit A of why politicians like a certain governor with no athletic experience as a coach or an AD should stay out of Florida athletics as he doesn't have a clue how it works and he made these decisions which sent the state backwards from where it was a year ago at this time 

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4 hours ago, SportsFan said:

One look at the two teams schedules will tell you plenty 

 

If Trinity Catholic (the 2-8 team) had played Pk Yonge schedule they would have 8 or 9 wins while if Pk Yonge played Trinity Catholic schedule they may have 1 win and then Trinity Catholic (rightfully so) would be the only one making the playoffs from that district 

 
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If anything this shows how the new FHSAA board picked a crappy playoff ranking system and should have stuck with the RPI and metro suburban instead of changing it 

 

Also exhibit A of why politicians like a certain governor with no athletic experience as a coach or an AD should stay out of Florida athletics as he doesn't have a clue how it works and he made these decisions which sent the state backwards from where it was a year ago at this time 

What decision did the governor make that has 8 classes for 484 teams when all we need is 5?

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5 hours ago, SportsFan said:

Also exhibit A of why politicians like a certain governor with no athletic experience as a coach or an AD should stay out of Florida athletics as he doesn't have a clue how it works and he made these decisions which sent the state backwards from where it was a year ago at this time 

Didn't DeSantis play baseball at Dunedin HS and then Yale (or one of those Ivies)?  

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The Gainesville Sun had a story about the PK Yonge situation.  According to the story, there appeared to be a couple of things that prompted the decision.  First (according to PKY's head coach), was that the starting QB had a death in the family and the "Blue Wave would be forced to start a freshman instead."   The article didn't get into any specifics (was the funeral scheduled for Friday night?  Would the QB miss practice all week?  The back-up QB is a freshman -- Heck, if Dillard can play with their 3rd-string QB, why can't PKY play with its 2nd-string QB?).  The coach is also quoted in the article as blaming the "short week"  (no school on Veteran's Day for PKY).  But, here's the excuse that got me.  According to the article, a "depleted roster hurt [head Coach] Jackson's ability to formulate a winning game plan."  Not, "we simply don't have enough players," but, in essence, "we've got enough players, they're just not very good."

So, rather than face the obstacles (and a likely butt-kicking), PKY simply decided to phone it in and call it a season.  What happened to "lessons learned on the field will serve us well in the game of life?"

Not the way I would have handled things.  

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1 hour ago, PinellasFB said:

Didn't DeSantis play baseball at Dunedin HS and then Yale (or one of those Ivies)?  

DeSantis actually got his start in Little League where his Dunedin team made it to the quarter finals of the LL World Series.  He went on to play for Dunedin HS where they made the state playoffs every year.  At Yale, he became team Captain as an outfielder and hit over .300 all four years.  I think the gentlemen with the derogatory comments about the state legislature simply is expressing a political bent as the problems with the FHSAA regarding football began a couple of decades ago as NoleBull correctly points out.  FHSAA has earned a lot of criticism and there is plenty of blame to go around that has nothing to do with politics, though some suffer from the funny "SYNDROME".

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2 hours ago, nolebull813 said:

What decision did the governor make that has 8 classes for 484 teams when all we need is 5?

The one where he reshuffled the FHSAA board of directors with people he hand appointed 

 

I'll send you the article if you want but I'm not responding to that shit ass that wants to talk about "syndromes" because someone isn't ass kissing his party because he's politically ignorant 

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33 minutes ago, Perspective said:

The Gainesville Sun had a story about the PK Yonge situation.  According to the story, there appeared to be a couple of things that prompted the decision.  First (according to PKY's head coach), was that the starting QB had a death in the family and the "Blue Wave would be forced to start a freshman instead."   The article didn't get into any specifics (was the funeral scheduled for Friday night?  Would the QB miss practice all week?  The back-up QB is a freshman -- Heck, if Dillard can play with their 3rd-string QB, why can't PKY play with its 2nd-string QB?).  The coach is also quoted in the article as blaming the "short week"  (no school on Veteran's Day for PKY).  But, here's the excuse that got me.  According to the article, a "depleted roster hurt [head Coach] Jackson's ability to formulate a winner game plan."  Not, "we simply don't have enough players," but, in essence, "we've got enough players, they're just not very good."

So, rather than face the obstacles (and a likely butt-kicking), PKY simply decided to phone it in and call it a season.  What happened to "lessons learned on the field will serve us well in the game of life?"

Not the way I would have handled things.  

On a side note with no intent to smear the QB as these issues you highlight can all be real, he did walk out on our team about mid-season last year when all his expectations disappeared after all the hype that he came in with; with no clear explanation.  Curious to see where he lands next year. 

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1 hour ago, PinellasFB said:

Didn't DeSantis play baseball at Dunedin HS and then Yale (or one of those Ivies)?  

Playing a sport doesn't make someone qualified to enforce a state athletics association 

If it did then every ex player would be a successful coach 

Someone who doesn't have any athletic administration experience should not have the authority to dictate the state association leadership because they haven't run a singular program so how can they make decisions to how the state as a whole should be run 

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15 hours ago, Perspective said:

So, rather than face the obstacles (and a likely butt-kicking), PKY simply decided to phone it in and call it a season.  What happened to "lessons learned on the field will serve us well in the game of life?"

Not the way I would have handled things.  

There's arguments to both sides.  PKY had a successful season compared to the low expectations.  Losing 70-0 to traditional state power could do more damage to the bigger picture than a 1-0 FF loss.  You have to weigh these things when building a team vs an established team.  Having been through the experience of trying to build a non-power into a competitive team personally, I can see this side of the argument.  Team momentum can be fragile and losing a single key player to transfer can knock down everything you've built up to that point.

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2 hours ago, PinellasFB said:

There's arguments to both sides.  PKY had a successful season compared to the low expectations.  Losing 70-0 to traditional state power could do more damage to the bigger picture than a 1-0 FF loss.  You have to weigh these things when building a team vs an established team.  Having been through the experience of trying to build a non-power into a competitive team personally, I can see this side of the argument.  Team momentum can be fragile and losing a single key player to transfer can knock down everything you've built up to that point.

This debacle with PK Yonge is the exact reason these teams don’t even belong in a district. They belong in the SSAA with all the other teams who have zero chance to win state. 
 

Why should TC be punished a lose out on a home playoff game because the FHSAA is too incompetent and greedy to consolidate the classes and make it to where only real teams make the playoffs. Not these fake teams who don’t belong. 

And why is PK Yonge even in a class where they can lose 70-0 in the first round? What a waste 

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3 hours ago, PinellasFB said:

There's arguments to both sides.  PKY had a successful season compared to the low expectations.  Losing 70-0 to traditional state power could do more damage to the bigger picture than a 1-0 FF loss.  You have to weigh these things when building a team vs an established team.  Having been through the experience of trying to build a non-power into a competitive team personally, I can see this side of the argument.  Team momentum can be fragile and losing a single key player to transfer can knock down everything you've built up to that point.

I understand your point, but I still think you're sending the wrong message.   The coach is telling his kids that they're just not good enough to compete with other teams in their region.   Admittedly, that may be true, but I just think it sends the wrong message to the kids that the coach simply doesn't have faith in them.  "Yo, David, I'm going to have you sit this one out.  No way you can beat Goliath." 

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12 hours ago, nolebull813 said:

This debacle with PK Yonge is the exact reason these teams don’t even belong in a district. They belong in the SSAA with all the other teams who have zero chance to win state. 
 

Why should TC be punished a lose out on a home playoff game because the FHSAA is too incompetent and greedy to consolidate the classes and make it to where only real teams make the playoffs. Not these fake teams who don’t belong. 

And why is PK Yonge even in a class where they can lose 70-0 in the first round? What a waste 

1A needs to be split up, the talent disparity between the schools with 500-600 students and schools with 300 is utterly insane.

Look up the 1A playoff games, I'm pretty sure all but First Baptist and University Christian are 500+.

It was so much better back in the day when the smaller private schools were 1A/2A or even back when it was 1B/1A/2B.

I wouldn't be surprised if half of 1A drops out to the SSAA at this point. Teams get tired of getting smashed by County All Star Teams of Pinellas, Hillsborough, Jacksonville, Broward, and Miami.

I'm pretty sure CCC, Chaminade, and Cardinal Newman could beat just about anybody.

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23 hours ago, havs54 said:

1A needs to be split up, the talent disparity between the schools with 500-600 students and schools with 300 is utterly insane.

Look up the 1A playoff games, I'm pretty sure all but First Baptist and University Christian are 500+.

It was so much better back in the day when the smaller private schools were 1A/2A or even back when it was 1B/1A/2B.

I wouldn't be surprised if half of 1A drops out to the SSAA at this point. Teams get tired of getting smashed by County All Star Teams of Pinellas, Hillsborough, Jacksonville, Broward, and Miami.

I'm pretty sure CCC, Chaminade, and Cardinal Newman could beat just about anybody.

They should. The bottom half should go to the SSAA. My hope is half the teams in the FHSAA head over. Make it a defacto Division 1 and Division 2. The FHSAA can be the competitive league and the SSAA can be the developmental league. You move up when you do good, and move down when you don’t. Like soccer in Europe 

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15 hours ago, nolebull813 said:

They should. The bottom half should go to the SSAA. My hope is half the teams in the FHSAA head over. Make it a defacto Division 1 and Division 2. The FHSAA can be the competitive league and the SSAA can be the developmental league. You move up when you do good, and move down when you don’t. Like soccer in Europe 

It would be so easy to fix. This way CCC, Chaminade, St Thomas Aquinas, and the other private schools can duke it out in 3A. Let Privates petition out of 3A if they're not competitive into 2A on a case by case basis.

Make it 6 or 7 classes

1A: Rurals 

2A: Privates Up to 400 Students

3A: Privates above 400

4A-7A: Divide up the remaining schools by enrollment and split the classes evenly.

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