Season rankings

[DisabledAccount]

So for example 

 

Tier 1 AHP would be 7 point favorites over tier 2 Armwood 

 

 

Tier 1 Sta would be 14 point favorites over tier 3 apopka 

 

 

Tier 1 Miami Northwestern would be 20+ point favorites over tier 4 Miami Southridge 

 

 

 

And so on

[DisabledAccount]

Another example 

 

Tier 2 Miami carol city would be 4-7 point favorites over tier 3 Miami Booker T Washington 

[Bamarod]

Too late to change it now... Tier is spelled T-I-E-R not T-E-I-R 

[BrowardHandicapper]

Although tier 1 looks about spot on.....I think you are over thinking the other tiers too much. Tiers are fine but when you start associating them to points you will drive yourself nuts.    For example tier 2 Armwood just beat tier 3 Plant by what 4 or 5 TDs?  Tier 2 Carol City just beat Tier 4 Southridge by like 6 TDs?

Now would it shock if next week Tier 4 Southrige beats @ Tier 3 South Dade by 2 TDs?

 

[DisabledAccount]

2 minutes ago, BrowardHandicapper said:

Although tier 1 looks about spot on.....I think you are over thinking the other tiers too much. Tiers are fine but when you start associating them to points you will drive yourself nuts.    For example tier 2 Armwood just beat tier 3 Plant by what 4 or 5 TDs?  Tier 2 Carol City just beat Tier 4 Southridge by like 6 TDs?

Now would it shock if next week Tier 4 Southrige beats @ Tier 3 South Dade by 2 TDs?

 

Well as i stated they not always going to follow the same pattern in every game 

 

The point separation is how i personally would set the line at for a game Not how it will always turn out 

 

 

[BrowardHandicapper]

Just now, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

Well as i stated they not always going to follow the same pattern in every game 

 

The point separation is how i personally would set the line at for a game Not how it will always turn out 

 

 

Poorly coached talented teams are the most frustrating to get a feel for.  They can sometimes be a thorn in one's side when trying to predict their games one way or another.  

[badbird]

5 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

Well as i stated they not always going to follow the same pattern in every game 

 

The point separation is how i personally would set the line at for a game Not how it will always turn out 

 

 

and you complain about Pinkos.  It is impossible to get every thing correct on rankings.  The thing is to try and be as accurate as possible.  I trust Pinkos rankings way more than the point system we have.    

[DisabledAccount]

3 minutes ago, badbird said:

and you complain about Pinkos.  It is impossible to get every thing correct on rankings.  The thing is to try and be as accurate as possible.  I trust Pinkos rankings way more than the point system we have.    

I don't complain about his point spread

 

I called out question marks i saw in the power rankings 

[DisabledAccount]

5 minutes ago, BrowardHandicapper said:

Poorly coached talented teams are the most frustrating to get a feel for.  They can sometimes be a thorn in one's side when trying to predict their games one way or another.  

I agree that's one of reasons i never trust computer polls is bc those polls don't take injuries or coaching into play which damages accuracy 

[badbird]

7 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

I agree that's one of reasons i never trust computer polls is bc those polls don't take injuries or coaching into play which damages accuracy 

Injuries are a major factor in computer polls.  Also some teams run up the score which inflates their computer ranking and others don't and that hurts them.  

[badbird]

11 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

I don't complain about his point spread

 

I called out question marks i saw in the power rankings 

complain/questioning same difference.  I'm not complaining about the new point system, I'm just strongly questioning the validity of it.

[DisabledAccount]

1 minute ago, badbird said:

complain/questioning same difference.  I'm not complaining about the new point system, I'm just strongly questioning the validity of it.

Ok i see the point 

 

No one will agree with every ranking bc everyone sees teams differently, even a computer 

[DisabledAccount]

4 minutes ago, badbird said:

Injuries are a major factor in computer polls.  Also some teams run up the score which inflates their computer ranking and others don't and that hurts them.  

How does a computer poll take account of injuries? 

[badbird]

1 hour ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

How does a computer poll take account of injuries? 

It can't.  Word should have been problem not factor.  

[badbird]

2 minutes ago, badbird said:

It can't.  Word should have been problem not factor.  

However it does rank them on on the field performance which when deciding who makes the playoffs shouldn't that be more important?  

[badbird]

Does Pinkos have all the teams listed some where or just the top 25 and top 10/5 in each class?  It would be interesting to see what teams he would have in the playoffs compared to the teams that get in.

[DisabledAccount]

Just now, badbird said:

Does Pinkos have all the teams listed some where or just the top 25 and top 10/5 in each class?  It would be interesting to see what teams he would have in the playoffs compared to the teams that get in.

I've only seen the 25 and 10/5 but I'm sure it's out there somewhere 

[badbird]

4 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

I've only seen the 25 and 10/5 but I'm sure it's out there somewhere 

I would love to see that at the end of the regular season to compare to the playoffs.  I know laz has them all listed

[badbird]

maxpreps also you can get it

[DisabledAccount]

Dixie County (10) over Fort White 

Cocoa (7) over Bartram Trail 

Baker County (18) over Clay 

Key West (4) over Kings Academy 

Winter Park (20) over Boone

South Dade (3) over Miami Palmetto 

Madison County (6) over University Christian 

Jax Trinity Christian (27) over Ponte Vedra

 

 

 

 

I did a few tests on the game lines for some of the pickems using my tiers and not sure if these sound right or are in need of adjustment 

 

Thoughts? 

[DisabledAccount]

1A top 5

 

1 Madison

2 Pahokee

3 Dixie County 

4 Baker 

5 Blountstown

 

 

2A top 5

 

1 Champagnt 

2 University Christian

3 North Florida Christian

4 St Francis

5 Victory Christian

 

3A top 5

 

1 Chaminade 

2 Oxbridge

3 Clearwater Central Catholic

4 Kings Academy

5 Melbourne Central Catholic

 

 

 

4A  top 5

 

1 Cocoa

2 Miami Booker T Washington

3 Raines

4 University Schoool

5 Dunnellon

 

 

 

5A  top 10

 

1 American Heritage Plantation

2 Cardinal Gibbons

3 Jax Trinity Christian

4 Jones

5 West Florida

6 Godby

7 Baker County

8 Bishop Moore 

9 Bolles

10 Rickards

 

 

6A top 10

 

1 Miami Northwestern

2 Miami Central

3 Miami Carol City

4 Armwood

5 Vanguard

6 St Augustine

7 Crestview

8 Miami Norland

9 Niceville

10 Gulf Breeze

 

 

7A top 10

 

1 St Thomas Aquinas 

2 Venice

3 Lakeland

4 Viera

5 Plant 

6 Robert E Lee

7 Columbia 

8 Braden River

9 Tampa Bay Tech

10 Bartram Trail 

 

 

8A top 10

1 Osceola 

2 Vero Beach

3 Columbus

4 Miramar

5 Apopka

6 Deerfield Beach

7 Dr Phillips

8 Miami Palmetto

9 Miami Senior

10 Miami Southridge

[DisabledAccount]

I'm gonna start working on top 100 later tonight or tomorrow

 

I'm also gonna work on florida tiers and regional rankings

[941football]

In 7A I don't think there is a North Fort Myers??

 

I hope that is not supposed to read South Fort Myers who according to Max preps is currently 4-3. They come out of district 12 which is a 3 team district. Typically the past few years get throttled 1st round. Unless the beat out Gulf Coast for district Championship I don't see getting in the playoffs.

 

[badbird]

1 hour ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

1A top 5

 

1 Madison

2 Pahokee

3 Dixie County 

4 Baker 

5 Blountstown

 

 

2A top 5

 

1 Champagnt 

2 University Christian

3 North Florida Christian

4 St Francis

5 Victory Christian

 

3A top 5

 

1 Chaminade 

2 Oxbridge

3 Clearwater Central Catholic

4 Kings Academy

5 Melbourne Central Catholic

 

 

 

4A  top 5

 

1 Cocoa

2 Miami Booker T Washington

3 Raines

4 University Schoool

5 Dunnellon

 

 

 

5A  top 10

 

1 American Heritage Plantation

2 Cardinal Gibbons

3 Jax Trinity Christian

4 Jones

5 West Florida

6 Godby

7 Baker County

8 Bishop Moore 

9 Bolles

10 Rickards

 

 

6A top 10

 

1 Miami Northwestern

2 Miami Central

3 Miami Carol City

4 Armwood

5 Vanguard

6 St Augustine

7 Crestview

8 Miami Norland

9 Niceville

10 Gulf Breeze

 

 

7A top 10

 

1 St Thomas Aquinas 

2 Venice

3 Lakeland

4 Viera

5 Plant 

6 Robert E Lee

7 Columbia 

8 Braden River

9 North Fort Myers

10 Tampa Bay Tech

 

 

8A top 10

1 Osceola 

2 Vero Beach

3 Columbus

4 Miramar

5 Apopka

6 Deerfield Beach

7 Dr Phillips

8 Miami Palmetto

9 Miami Senior

10 Miami Southridge

North Ft Myers is 6A.  You would think after 9 weeks of doing it this year and at least 2 years of doing it you would at least have the teams in the right class 

[badbird]

last week you had Wekiva 8A 20.  I don't think there are 20 teams in 8A better than Wekiva.  How are they not over DP?  We will find out this week vs Apopka.  They have one loss in a game they blew vs a pretty good Winter Park team on the road and fumbled at the end to allow Winter Park to steal the game in the last few seconds.