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The Most Consistent Programs of the Past 15 Seasons

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Relatively few programs have had winning seasons(finished with more wins than losses) EACH of the past 15 seasons.  These are the teams that arguably reload better than any other programs of the modern era.  Who are the teams?  I did consider forfeits in this exercise.  If not for forfeits, Armwood and Miami Central would make the list.

 

Lakeland     179-19 (90%)

St Thomas     195-24 (89%)

Bolles     173-28 (86%)

Dwyer     164-31 (84%)

Naples     154-30 (84%)

Cocoa     161-35 (82%)

American Heritage Plantation     149-36 (81%)

Columbus     148-37 (80%)

Apopka      154-43 (78%)

Bishop Moore     139-41 (77%)

Wakulla     130-44 (75%)

Niceville     131-45 (74%)

North FL Christian     132-48 (73%)

 

 

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2 hours ago, gatorman-uf said:

All guesses

  1. Miami Central
  2. St. Thomas Aquinas
  3. Dwyer
  4. Bolles
  5. Plant
  6. Niceville
  7. Vero Beach
  8. Apopka
  9. Lakeland
  10. Manatee
  11. Venice
  12. Mainland
  13. Dr. Phillips
  14. Vanguard
  15. Madison County
  16. Columbia
     

Good guesses!  You got 6 of them.  More than 5 to go.

Apopka

Bolles

Dwyer

Lakeland

Niceville

St Thomas

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1 hour ago, gatorman-uf said:

All guesses

  1. Miami Central
  2. St. Thomas Aquinas
  3. Dwyer
  4. Bolles
  5. Plant
  6. Niceville
  7. Vero Beach
  8. Apopka
  9. Lakeland
  10. Manatee
  11. Venice
  12. Mainland
  13. Dr. Phillips
  14. Vanguard
  15. Madison County
  16. Columbia
     

If it wasn't for Craig Howard in 2008 Columbia would be on the list as 2008 was Columbia first losing season since 1986

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3 hours ago, OldSchoolLion said:

Relatively few programs have had winning seasons(finished with more wins than losses) EACH of the past 15 seasons.  These are the teams that arguably reload better than any other programs of the modern era.  Who are the teams?  I did consider forfeits in this exercise.  If not for forfeits, Armwood and Miami Central would make the list.

5 to go.

Apopka

Bolles

Cocoa

Dwyer

Lakeland

Niceville

St Thomas

Fort Myers

Columbus?

Naples?

North Florida Christian

University Christian

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2 hours ago, OldSchoolLion said:

The last one on the list is American Heritage Plantation.  What do all 13 of the schools on the list have in common?  

Not sure if Naples did under the current timeline but the others have all made at least one state appearance in the stretch and most won at least one title 

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Looks like Plant falls one year short of membership in this elite club.   Perhaps if this question is posed again next year, Plant can be initiated. 

2004 was Robert Weiner's first year at the helm.  The team went 3-7, with two district losses.   Since then, the worst record Plant has had is 9-3 (in 2005, Weiner's second year as head coach, and again in 2015).  Over the last 14 years, Plant has 4 state championships and has been runner-up twice.  For purposes of this particular thread,  over that same 14 year span, Plant has posted an impressive 58-0 district record (their last district loss was to Armwood in the 2004 season). 

They're going to be tested in district play this year, as Plant doesn't appear to have the depth they've had in past years.  They've also moved back up to 8A and into a new district that includes a vastly-improved Steinbrenner team who won their last 4 games of the 2018 season, scoring at least 34 points in each game. 

Plant has had consistency at the head coaching spot, but has also had a handful of assistant coaches that have been with the team during most of Weiner's tenure.  Yeah, that makes a difference. 

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2 hours ago, Perspective said:

Plant has had consistency at the head coaching spot, but has also had a handful of assistant coaches that have been with the team during most of Weiner's tenure.  Yeah, that makes a difference. 

While this is is not the thread for my question, I wonder how much consistency with the assistant coaches matters versus the consistency with the head coach. For example, if we went and looked at one of the teams on the list that has had 2-3 coaches, would we notice that the assistant coaches are the same from year to year even as the head coach changes. If we looked at a struggling school, would we fine that not only do the head coaches consistently change, but the assistants as well.

Lots of research shows that struggling schools have constant teacher turnover. I wonder if the same would be true for struggling football programs. 

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43 minutes ago, gatorman-uf said:

While this is is not the thread for my question, I wonder how much consistency with the assistant coaches matters versus the consistency with the head coach. For example, if we went and looked at one of the teams on the list that has had 2-3 coaches, would we notice that the assistant coaches are the same from year to year even as the head coach changes. If we looked at a struggling school, would we fine that not only do the head coaches consistently change, but the assistants as well.

Lots of research shows that struggling schools have constant teacher turnover. I wonder if the same would be true for struggling football programs. 

I'd bet you dollars to donuts that this is true.

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