Who y’all got in 8a rankings

[Ray Icaza]

2 minutes ago, VeniceIndiansFootball said:

Being at home definitely helps, but Venice has historically played horribly against teams from South Florida. Traveling to Northwestern the week before is bad because they could get banged up against a team with size like that. Unless you believe Northwestern is going to have a bad year, then I see Venice losing at least one of those games.

I’m worried that the game against Cardinal Gibbons is going to be not only a loss, but a possible blowout which could seriously damage Venice’s confidence and may cause them to falter early on. Cardinal Gibbons beat STA at Brian Piccolo last year and appears to have returned the main core of their players. Venice is going to have their hands full in a big way, Gibbons has elite size on that D line which could rattle Browne early on and lead Venice into bad mistakes that cost them the game. Need to play very well and avoid costly mistakes to win the game.

Obviously Venice is extremely good and they are priming themselves for a championship type season as they scheduled Edgewater, then Cocoa to follow up their opener.   Will know alot early.

[Jullian]

45 minutes ago, VeniceIndiansFootball said:

Being at home definitely helps, but Venice has historically played horribly against teams from South Florida. Traveling to Northwestern the week before is bad because they could get banged up against a team with size like that. Unless you believe Northwestern is going to have a bad year, then I see Venice losing at least one of those games.

I’m worried that the game against Cardinal Gibbons is going to be not only a loss, but a possible blowout which could seriously damage Venice’s confidence and may cause them to falter early on. Cardinal Gibbons beat STA at Brian Piccolo last year and appears to have returned the main core of their players. Venice is going to have their hands full in a big way, Gibbons has elite size on that D line which could rattle Browne early on and lead Venice into bad mistakes that cost them the game. Need to play very well and avoid costly mistakes to win the game.

The Venice I saw last year looked different. If they’re better this year, which sounds like they will be, I think it’ll b a close good game.  Against NW, I think they’ll do better than most think. Anyhow I’ll b rooting for u at Traz! 

[Jullian]

3 minutes ago, VeniceIndiansFootball said:

I’m hoping for a close game, but history is not on Venice’s side here. I think Cardinal Gibbons will be the one game they lose this season. Northwestern is going to be extremely tough as well. This is one of the hardest schedules in the state, without a doubt. Just hope the players can stay healthy, one way or another.

No doubt, it’s a great schedule! If healthy, you’ll b super battle tested & more than ready for a great post season. 
It’s right around the corner, FINALLY!!!

[HornetFan]

13 hours ago, VeniceIndiansFootball said:

The Cardinal Gibbons game was originally supposed to be away, with IMG traveling to Venice for the preseason game. But it fell through for unknown reasons, with IMG scheduling American Heritage Plantation as replacement. I guess Peacock didn’t want back to back away games of such length, so Gibbons came to Venice. Just wish some of those games were away, Venice I think really has too many home games this season

Just wish some of those games were away, Venice I think really has too many home games this season

I never heard of a team having "too many home games", especially if they expect to make a run at a state championship. Don't you consider Venice's hometown fans in the stands to be an advantage?

[DisabledAccount]

I did some state rankings but I won't post it directly on here but if anyone is interested in seeing it let me know 

[Jullian]

6 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

I did some state rankings but I won't post it directly on here but if anyone is interested in seeing it let me know 

Post it! 

[Perspective]

27 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

I did some state rankings but I won't post it directly on here but if anyone is interested in seeing it let me know 

Post it.  Then, we'll all tell you why you're wrong, misguided, stupid, etc.   Then, you'll get pissed off and tell us why we're wrong, misguided and stupid (and that Lee gets a lot of transfers).   And then we'll just repeat what we said the first time, but use slightly different words.  Then, you'll reply that if we're so smart, we should do our own rankings - which we won't, because it's easier to critique someone else's efforts . . . but at least it will give us something to talk about.     

Isn't that how it works? 

[HornetFan]

2 hours ago, VeniceIndiansFootball said:

Well yes, but when you have 8 home games and only two away (in the regular season at least,) don’t you think it starts to become a little excessive? I mean Venice didn’t even want to return the trip to Cocoa this season after Cocoa made the trip two years ago. It just seems unfair to other teams, especially when so many of Venice’s opponents have to travel 90+ minutes to play them.

I mean Venice didn’t even want to return the trip to Cocoa this season after Cocoa made the trip two years ago. It just seems unfair to other teams, especially when so many of Venice’s opponents have to travel 90+ minutes to play them.

I didn't know that Venice was refusing to travel to opponents, especially to reciprocate on the Cocoa game. I think this stance may work against them over the span of the season. If a team insists upon an unfair advantage such as hometown referees and hometown fans in the stands, it speaks to their credibility; Venice will be lacking come the end of the season. 

[HornetFan]

15 minutes ago, VeniceIndiansFootball said:

You must not know Coach Peacock. A lot of Venice fans do not like the guy; he is known for being very stubborn and arrogant. Venice’s staff never planned on reciprocating as far as a trip to Cocoa went. They were supposed to play Venice again last year, in Powell-Davis for a second straight trip, before it fell through due to the pandemic. That’s why I don’t like having 8 or 9 home games, it makes a team look like they never travel to play good competition and have to stay home to keep unfair advantages within arms’ reach.

That’s why I don’t like having 8 or 9 home games, it makes a team look like they never travel to play good competition and have to stay home to keep unfair advantages within arms’ reach.

I don't know the coach, but it sounds like he may fit the description. That's a shame for the kids because if they are that good, his propensity to try and gain unfair advantage, taints the teams achievements in the eyes of many people that are knowledgeable of how the coach operates. It also makes one wonder if the QB transferring in had an overwhelming desire to play for Venice or if he may have been enticed to transfer by someone trying to gain an unfair advantage, the dreaded "R" word. 

[Jullian]

49 minutes ago, VeniceIndiansFootball said:

You must not know Coach Peacock. A lot of Venice fans do not like the guy; he is known for being very stubborn and arrogant. Venice’s staff never planned on reciprocating as far as a trip to Cocoa went. They were supposed to play Venice again last year, in Powell-Davis for a second straight trip, before it fell through due to the pandemic. That’s why I don’t like having 8 or 9 home games, it makes a team look like they never travel to play good competition and have to stay home to keep unfair advantages within arms’ reach.

Peacock has that reputation down south too.  BUT some players like playing for dictators & loud mouths. He knows how to coach & motivate! 

[KeemD321]

2 hours ago, VeniceIndiansFootball said:

You must not know Coach Peacock. A lot of Venice fans do not like the guy; he is known for being very stubborn and arrogant. Venice’s staff never planned on reciprocating as far as a trip to Cocoa went. They were supposed to play Venice again last year, in Powell-Davis for a second straight trip, before it fell through due to the pandemic. That’s why I don’t like having 8 or 9 home games, it makes a team look like they never travel to play good competition and have to stay home to keep unfair advantages within arms’ reach.

Makes sense now. Near the end of the Venice v Cocoa games things got intense between Coach Schneider and Coach Peacock because Venice had the game well under wraps then out of nowhere Peacock called a deep bomb for a touchdown when everyone expected them to just run out the clock

[HornetFan]

2 hours ago, Jullian said:

Peacock has that reputation down south too.  BUT some players like playing for dictators & loud mouths. He knows how to coach & motivate! 

He knows how to coach & motivate! 

Sounds like he has other talents, like the power of persuasion.

[Jullian]

59 minutes ago, HornetFan said:

He knows how to coach & motivate! 

Sounds like he has other talents, like the power of persuasion.

Ok!!!!! Lol

[Jullian]

2 hours ago, VeniceIndiansFootball said:

I think I remember that play, it never should have been called in that situation. Just Peacock being Peacock. But nonetheless, Ryan Schneider is a great man and an even better coach. I had the pleasure of meeting him and getting to speak with him briefly in 2019 when Cocoa made the trip to Venice. A coach of true class, who is very devoted to the game of football. I wish Cocoa all the best this year, I hope they have a very successful season. Except for in Week 3, of course. 

Just found out Gibbons hosting Miami Palmetto.  Should b a good one. 

[KeemD321]

7 hours ago, VeniceIndiansFootball said:

I think I remember that play, it never should have been called in that situation. Just Peacock being Peacock. But nonetheless, Ryan Schneider is a great man and an even better coach. I had the pleasure of meeting him and getting to speak with him briefly in 2019 when Cocoa made the trip to Venice. A coach of true class, who is very devoted to the game of football. I wish Cocoa all the best this year, I hope they have a very successful season. Except for in Week 3, of course. 

I'm hoping the game will be competitive for all 4 quarters and not just a half. Wideman was a major factor in that game.

[Tony112]

On 8/10/2021 at 7:32 PM, Jullian said:

Ok!!!!! Lol

I like cardinal gibbons by 2 or 3 touchdowns 

[Tony112]

3 minutes ago, Tony112 said:

I like cardinal gibbons by 2 or 3 touchdowns Miami palmetto always have talent they just have suspect coaching 

 

[Ray Icaza]

On 8/14/2021 at 5:37 PM, Tony112 said:

Hindsight is 20/20, but Palmetto must have plenty of talent to make up for suspect coaching; they lost by 6.

 

On 8/14/2021 at 5:37 PM, Tony112 said:

 

 

[DarterBlue2]

1 hour ago, Ray Icaza said:

 

 

Or maybe Gibbons is slightly overrated. Last year's Palmetto team was stellar defensively, but less than stellar offensively. 

[Ray Icaza]

4 hours ago, DarterBlue2 said:

Or maybe Gibbons is slightly overrated. Last year's Palmetto team was stellar defensively, but less than stellar offensively. 

Losing their starting QB during the season was devastating for them with no real backup.  It showed in the playoffs against each team by winning strictly with defense.  We were fortunate to get out with a win at their place only due to a blocked punt late in the game.  This year the path for any team coming out of the south bracket will be much more difficult than last year; if early rankings are any indication the top 5 teams in 8A are all in the south (regions 3 & 4).  From the second round on no cupcakes.

[DarterBlue2]

9 hours ago, Ray Icaza said:

Losing their starting QB during the season was devastating for them with no real backup.  It showed in the playoffs against each team by winning strictly with defense.  We were fortunate to get out with a win at their place only due to a blocked punt late in the game.  This year the path for any team coming out of the south bracket will be much more difficult than last year; if early rankings are any indication the top 5 teams in 8A are all in the south (regions 3 & 4).  From the second round on no cupcakes.

I watched the Osceola vs Palmetto game. It was a tight one. Osceola's D and special teams accomplished what its offense did not. A close game, yes. But I think the Kowboys deserved the win. And, yes, Palmetto was hurt badly without their starting QB, but should have had a back up plan in place.

Regarding early 8A rankings at a minimum two teams in Region 1, Seminole and Apopka, deserve to be in the 8A top 5. Not saying either can beat the "mighty Venice", but both are state caliber teams. We shall see how the season plays out. 

[Ray Icaza]

55 minutes ago, DarterBlue2 said:

I watched the Osceola vs Palmetto game. It was a tight one. Osceola's D and special teams accomplished what its offense did not. A close game, yes. But I think the Kowboys deserved the win. And, yes, Palmetto was hurt badly without their starting QB, but should have had a back up plan in place.

Regarding early 8A rankings at a minimum two teams in Region 1, Seminole and Apopka, deserve to be in the 8A top 5. Not saying either can beat the "mighty Venice", but both are state caliber teams. We shall see how the season plays out. 

Agree with your analysis on all fronts.  Osceola's D again is a top 5 in 8A without a doubt while the offense will be improved with skill players that return;  O line is young and looked okay, but will need steady growth to contend at the end.  I don't think we should be in the top 5 early rankings and these rankings shouldn't come out till after the 3 or 4th game as they are just someone's opinion.  Regarding Apopka and Seminole, my point is it will probably come down to one of them in Region 1 as I don't see anyone in Region 2 at this point that is better so their path to the final is less rocky.

[DarterBlue2]

12 minutes ago, Ray Icaza said:

Agree with your analysis on all fronts.  Osceola's D again is a top 5 in 8A without a doubt while the offense will be improved with skill players that return;  O line is young and looked okay, but will need steady growth to contend at the end.  I don't think we should be in the top 5 early rankings and these rankings shouldn't come out till after the 3 or 4th game as they are just someone's opinion.  Regarding Apopka and Seminole, my point is it will probably come down to one of them in Region 1 as I don't see anyone in Region 2 at this point that is better so their path to the final is less rocky.

Yes, Region 2 will likely come down to Vero Beach, Treasure Coast and Boone. I don't think any of those three will beat Seminole or Apopka unless they get some lucky bounces. 

I think Osceola will get at least to the Regional finals. But you are right, the path to the title game is tougher in the south bracket. It is crazy that the greater Orlando area has teams in Regions 1, 2 and 3. It is both a blessing (possible replay of last year), and a curse. 

[Ray Icaza]

8 minutes ago, DarterBlue2 said:

Yes, Region 2 will likely come down to Vero Beach, Treasure Coast and Boone. I don't think any of those three will beat Seminole or Apopka unless they get some lucky bounces. 

I think Osceola will get at least to the Regional finals. But you are right, the path to the title game is tougher in the south bracket. It is crazy that the greater Orlando area has teams in Regions 1, 2 and 3. It is both a blessing (possible replay of last year), and a curse. 

We shall see, I know we are better than last year just have a significantly more difficult route this time around and hope everyone on our side understands that.  Round 2 could be vs West Orange a 2nd time, round 3 possibly Venice, Sarasota Riverview, etc.. and finally a strong contender from Miami like Columbus, Deerfield, Palmetto and others.   MURDERS ROW!!

[Ray Icaza]

7 minutes ago, VeniceIndiansFootball said:

Osceola looked great the other night. They should be primed to at least make it to the regional finals.

Offense was spotty, too many negative plays but fortunate to have explosive play capability to overcome them.  Defense stout but had chance for at least 4 turnovers and didn't capitalize on any of those plays (fumbles/interceptions), so easy to find things to improve on.  Just have to focus on those improvements week to week before we are ready for some of the aforementioned teams.