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  1. In all seriousness. This is how the scheduling process “appears” to be set up with Maxpreps. It appears that each school has designated individual(s) that have access to MaxPreps scheduling web pages. That means over 550 people can input Florida schedules and schedule changes. It doesn’t take Einstein to figure out that this can lead to nothing but disaster and inaccuracies. There needs to be a single source of input who has the capability to audit for accuracy before schedules are entered. This will ensure errors and conflicts are identified and resolved prior to entering the schedules into the site. Again….only 1 input source. And yes, I want the job.
    3 points
  2. My feeling with it is by looking at the current state of football in Florida there isn't a divide IMO between public and private It's rural vs urban because realistically a school can get kids from anywhere in their county for a sport so teams should be put together based on the size of said county (and the talent pool they pull from) not the size of the school At least that's the approach I took, every no system comes without flaws but I felt it would address most of the current broken parts of our classifications
    3 points
  3. Chronological and emotional ages often don't correlate as well as you would think. In my kid's case, he skipped the fourth grade in elementary school, so he was always a year ahead. It got worse from there as in middle school he opted to do Algebra 1 and Geometry at Apopka high. So, he ended up graduating high school at 16 which made him the youngest in the class. At 22 he packed his bags and moved to Thailand. He has lived in Asia ever since, got married and is the father of a kid there.
    3 points
  4. Avon Park is in a rural area and like you said, they don't have a large number of kids in neighboring towns that are going to transfer to play football. The metro (urban) area (SF, Orlando, Tampa, and Jax) schools can draw from a multitude of neighboring schools. If a talented player, say a stud QB, is zoned to a "have not" school in a metro area, and a neighboring city needs only a stud QB to fill out their team for a run at state, there's a good chance that the stud QB will be enrolled at the neighboring school in the coming January in time for Spring football. Florida state law allows it now, and unless the FHSAA places some academic standards that are required for participation in sports upon a transfer, you have the "wild west" of transfers we're seeing now.
    3 points
  5. If Jax TCA can get this team of on the right start I believe they can go undefeated this year!!!! bolles murdered us last year so we need to definitely watch out for them. I know AHP is always a great and ppl are saying it will be really hard to be them but I really think we call pull it off with this team!! we have a 63 man roster for a 2a school. We have a lot of d1 prospects in all grades. our o line d line is huge and we will have a really good offense and defense this year !!! size and weight wise this is the biggest TCA team I’ve ever seen. check out our roster on maxpreps or hudl. I hope we have a great season and if we don’t I still love my school.
    2 points
  6. In the end, who's responsible for bringing the heat and making this happen? I'd like to get them one at a time in the batter's box without a helmet and unload some serious chin music on 'em. Heck, I might even don my imitation Ryne Duren goggles just to see how they like not knowing what's coming their way.
    2 points
  7. 8/4/21 Update: Not much progress- I'm about 20% through my second pass of Maxpreps and the schedules are still a cluster@#%$. Check this one out: Central Florida Christian Academy 27-Aug Oasis 27-Aug Mount Dora Christian Academy 27-Aug St. Petersburg Catholic 3-Sep Victory Charter School 3-Sep St. Petersburg Catholic 10-Sep Cornerstone Charter Academy 24-Sep Bishop McLaughlin Catholic 24-Sep St. Joseph Academy 1-Oct Bishop McLaughlin Catholic 1-Oct St. Edward's 1-Oct Gateway Charter 8-Oct Cocoa Beach 8-Oct Cedar Creek Christian 15-Oct Bell Creek Academy 15-Oct Cedar Creek Christian 15-Oct Santa Fe Catholic 22-Oct Bell Creek Academy Seriously? Yes I do complain a lot. Back in my day, one of two things happened when we had complainers such as myself: 1) The "squeaky" wheel got the oil. And Management resolved the problem. or 2) The "complainer" was assigned the task of resolving the problem. Unfortunately, in today's world, this "problem" will go unsolved because: The lack of accurate schedules is not viewed as a "problem" because no one has assigned an associated monetary impact to this issue. Does anyone want to take a shot at estimating lost revenue due to faulty schedules?
    2 points
  8. Yeah in Valdosta, I'm going its gonna be awesome, they stadium is really cool and it's title town usa , gets no better in high-school then playing against a legendary program.
    2 points
  9. Yeah they did, Valdosta will ultimately see how they will be the rest if the year.
    2 points
  10. Ponte Vedra should be a good team this year. They’ve got some talent and a proven coach has been hired. Creekside should be solid but the loss of the QB is tough and they’re in a tough district. I haven’t heard much about St Augustine or Nease but I expect St Augustine to be pretty good.
    2 points
  11. Circling back to the topic of this thread, I saw EPSN's schedule of high school games for the first weekend: Aug. 26 8 p.m. – No. 7 Southlake Carroll (Southlake, Texas) vs. Highland Park (Dallas) Aug. 27 Noon – Milton (Ga.) at North Cobb (Kennesaw, Ga.) Aug. 28 Noon – No. 10 St. Frances Academy (Baltimore) at No. 6 St. Thomas Aquinas (Fort Lauderdale, Fla.) 3 p.m. – Oakland (Murfreesboro, Tenn.) at Madison-Ridgeland Academy (Madison, Miss.) 6 p.m. – Pace Academy (Atlanta, Ga.) at Rabun County (Tiger, Ga.) 9 p.m. – Bridgeland (Cypress, Texas) at Klein Cain (Houston) Aug. 29 1:30 p.m. – No. 2 IMG Academy (Bradenton, Fla.) vs. Bishop Sycamore (Columbus, Ohio) Photo by Robbie Rakestraw Will Quinn Ewers be in action for Southlake Carroll on Aug. 26 against Highland Park? The biggest matchup will have major national rankings implications as No. 6 St. Thomas Aquinas (Fort Lauderdale, Fla.) hosts No. 10 St. Frances Academy (Baltimore). Perhaps the biggest storyline among the seven games will be the status of Southlake Carroll star quarterback Quinn Ewers. Regarded as the No. 1 recruit in the Class of 2022, reports earlier this week indicate he is leaning toward graduating early and enrolling at Ohio State in August so he can take advantage of NIL opportunities. The Southlake Carroll-Highland Park game will be played at AT&T Stadium in Arlington. The IMG Academy-Bishop Sycamore contest will also be played at a unique venue as the teams will hook it up at Tom Benson Hall of Fame Stadium in Canton.
    2 points
  12. All right, thank you. I was trying to explain how Pop Warner classifies different teams by district based on talent and tradition of winning and success. I believe that this idea could work at the High School level, and would make for more competitive games throughout the state. This would be a big positive and boost to teams that had not had success and are at a disadvantage because of demographics.
    2 points
  13. Education money is spent on many things we don't need. God knows we need Jr High football back. Twitter
    2 points
  14. Hardee, Desoto and Highlands have Jr High football. There are only 5 schools and we play each other twice. Hardee also has Pop Warner so that age group gets a choice between the two. With the limitation of competition of Jr High football, Pop Warner seems to me a better choice, but what do I know? Now that FHSAA is keeping 8th graders from playing high school football I'm hoping some schools districts like Polk or Okeechobee counties will start their Jr High programs back up.
    2 points
  15. For example Mount Union and Wisconsin-Whitewater dominate and win NCAA championships at their level of competition. However, these schools do not compete against Alabama and Ohio State. Alabama is considered the champion of their classification, and Mount Union is considered the champion of their classification.
    2 points
  16. Colleges recruit, high schools are not allowed and policies should be put in place to enforce that. Your idea of divisions within a classification just cheapens the accomplishment. Classifications by enrollment size is not why winning championships is unrealistic but the concentration of talent in just a few schools with an open transfer policy.
    2 points
  17. Clearly, you are not paying attention then, because there is a Division 1 and Division 2 in Pop Warner. These divisions play all the way the the Championships at Disney in late November-early December. I am well aware how the classifications of 1A-8A through population of the school, which are clearly not working since there are some very lopsided districts throughout the state. These "have nots" as you call them, would definitely benefit from competing against teams of equal talent and stature with chance to win district titles, and qualify for state playoffs. I feel that this is a better option than a program going "independent" and having to admit that they have no shot at success. Many Pop Warner Associations are getting away from the weight limits, and using the 6U, 8U, 10U. 12U, Unlimited system as a way to get bigger children to play their sport, and also to deal with the declining numbers of youth football signees in recent years.
    2 points
  18. You're missing the point. The only teams that can compete are those in metro areas that can get a similar amount of transfers. Avon Park had none.
    2 points
  19. Prior to 2012, AHP and Gibbons couldn't get past the first round of the playoffs; STA would get to the finals and lose (usually to Lakeland).
    2 points
  20. The way classification is determined, another 10-20 students don't move you into another class. But when those 10-20 are all football transfers, a 4A school is in effect a 6A or 7A school talent wise.
    2 points
  21. surely, rockledge surely has the better chance of making it to the finals. Cocoas road is way too hectic imo. Rockledge though stands no chance against Central or Heritage sorry to say.
    2 points
  22. It's not the number of private schools, thus in 7A you could have only 1 (STA) and they take the majority of titles against 100 publics. Point you keep glossing over is that you cannot limit transfers in private schools period because the vast majority of those are for academics, but you can in the publics as history has shown us. For 30+ years parents have seen the demise of academic excellence in almost any public school and thus enrollment population in privates is overwhelmingly transfers but not for football and no one is going to legislate against that. So let those transfer as many as they please so enforcement to figure out the WHY is not important. If Miami Central (your example) or any other public cheats on whatever the rules are routinely they will get caught and we have numerous examples of that; heavy penalties are a deterrent. Most kids today are not going to sacrifice a year of eligibility to play football if that is the standard for transfers. A legitimate move to that district is the only way around the wait. Trying to decide how far they move from or how many a certain classification gets, etc.. complicates the enforcement. Thus my term "Keep It Simple Stupid".
    2 points
  23. They’re in the North this year. If they win they would play AHD or Central in the final.
    2 points
  24. I would say they're on par with those teams. They've just run into AHP.
    2 points
  25. What you think of someone else amounts to an opinion. That obese people have dramatically worse outcomes than non-obese people is complete fact. If you excluded all of the people over 80, all of the obese people and all of the people without other life-threatening underlying conditions, your Covid death count would be minuscule. People could look at their bodyfat % and their A1C levels and know right away whether they are at very high risk, moderate risk, or almost zero risk of dying of Covid. But, again, we're not allowed to say those facts out loud.
    2 points
  26. It was an assistant coach for Rockledge. He didn’t have the names in front of him at the time but he was pretty upset when the county AD told them they couldn’t do it.
    1 point
  27. For sure. I always root for Florida vs another state. U making the trip to Traz on the 20th?
    1 point
  28. The last two seasons, Aquinas has been uncanny at getting defensive scores, especially in crucial situations. They can score four touchdowns, and have none of them come from the offense
    1 point
  29. Thank you. I think it’s going to be a defensive slugfest all game long. Gonna be a lot of fun to watch. Hoping Aquinas comes away with the dub!
    1 point
  30. There D looks like #1.....Aquinas Gonna have their hands full.
    1 point
  31. Quinn Ewers announced today that he would not be playing his senior year of high school and, instead, would be enrolling at Ohio State (although, because he has one class to complete, he won't be eligible to play for OSU this year, but he'll be able to practice, learn the system, train, etc.). Most importantly for Ewers (allegedly) is that he'll be able to take advantage of the college version of NLI (where it's allowed) as opposed to the Texas version (i.e., where it's prohibited). Now, the interesting thing will be to see if "something comes up" for ESPN for August 26th. While they could go ahead and air the game, it certainly won't surprise me if a scheduling conflict develops (the TV production equivalent of "I have to wash my hair Friday night"). The primary reason for selecting that game no doubt was to be able to showcase the number one recruit in the nation. Now, he won't be there (or if he is, he certainly won't be playing). I think that if I were an ESPN exec, I'd be tempted to fill that spot with an special report on NLI and use Ewers as an example of a possible trend in the making.
    1 point
  32. There wouldn't have to be 16 state champions obviously, the classifications could be anywhere form 5 to 8 state champions.
    1 point
  33. That Ponte Vedra situation is a once-in-a-generation type of circumstance. How to divide up these districts and classifications would take the work, brains, and experience of many knowledgeable people about High School Football throughout the state.
    1 point
  34. Thank you KeemD321, that is what I was trying to describe.
    1 point
  35. I understand & like what you’re saying. How to divide up the schools in those upper & lower classes(Div 1/ Div 2), would b the hard part. Would we have 16 state champions then? A number of years ago, Ponte Vedra jumped out quick vs AH, in the state championship game. AH barely pulled it out. PV was a team of no transfers. They had played together in peewee FB thru 4 years of high school. Those days are ending rapidly. To create a Div 2, 1-8a, would give the hometown schools the chance & goal of a state championship. How to do it......no idea!
    1 point
  36. I get exactly what you're saying. But that is what classification is supposed to be about. And prior to 2012, it seemed to work. Even some of "have-nots" have a winning season now and again, but winning the championship is highly unlikely.
    1 point
  37. I am not talking among individual programs, I mean that Winter Park plays in a district that competes against teams in that similar district, similar to how teams in NCAA Division 1-AA,, 2, or 3 play in a conference from that same classifications for a championship. These teams do NOT compete against Alabama or Ohio State for a title. That is what I mean. There is a Division 1 for the top programs which are many inner-city teams, traditional teams, and a Division 2 for lesser-talented programs who can't compete with Division 1 programs, but compete against each other for their own title. I have been involved with Pop Warner football since 2006. I know that you do not like me as a person, but please understand what I am trying to articulate on this point.
    1 point
  38. I heard the county screwed them out of an out of state experience saying no county teams can leave the state. But then they let Merritt Island travel up to Georgia to get pummeled. Shaking my damn head
    1 point
  39. If I remember correctly what he means by 2 different divisions in Pop Warner, its basically the same as different classifications in high school and D1 and D2 in college. When I played for Cocoa Pop Warner our program for each age/weight group played in Division 2 then the following year we moved up to Division 1. I want to say it's based on the teams success. It very well could be alot different now. But that's what I believe he meant
    1 point
  40. Depends. Are they financially able to afford a private or parochial school? Are they academically able to handle a private or parochial school? Do they have anything in their background that may keep them from getting into a private or parochial school? Private and Parochial schools can't really stop a player from transferring in if they meet those three requisites unless they don't have any room available.
    1 point
  41. This is a fascinating discussion about transfers. My son is about to start his HS football career at a traditional have-not school in Pinellas County but he's an incoming freshman coming in with a group of kids that have played together for years and won championships at the youth level and I am very curious to see if they can get this thing turned around by the time they all graduate. Some of that incoming 9th grade class have already been promoted to varsity so I'm wondering how long before the private schools start trying to steal these players? It would be a shame to break up this group.
    1 point
  42. FYI, here in Kissimmee we have traditionally had 2 teams that competed around the state and each other; Osceola Panthers and CFA Mustangs. Both have been quite competitive against all comers and help build foundation for our high school teams. This year they have decided to merge and form one team, the Osceola Kowboys. Not sure that will sit well with some coaches in our town from other high schools.
    1 point
  43. Exactly and it's ruined high school sports.
    1 point
  44. transfer rules will never apply to private schools. And they shouldn't unless the rule deals with recruiting. Any parent that is willing to pay the tuition and fees that are part of a private school education should not be restricted from sending their child to private school. I have to agree with those that favor a separate classification for private schools because private schools do have an advantage when it comes to athletic transfers. There should be two classifications for private schools based upon student population; one large and one small, and they should play in their own private school districts, if there are enough of them in a given region.
    1 point
  45. Yes I have, but I thought that was why we already have classifications in high school. Division 1 doesn't have an "A" or "B" within it, so your idea would suggest that they should (the haves and have nots). How many Division 1 schools truly have a shot at a national title? 10, 15?
    1 point
  46. Perspective

    2021 Transfer Thread

    No doubt girls mature faster. And I agree there's no reason to rush kids through high school. But even back to when I was in high school, there was always a family or two in town that wanted to give their kids a better chance of succeeding in high school sports (and possibly getting a scholarship), so they made the decision to hold their kids back and have them start kindergarten a year later than all the other kids their age (and I'm not just talking 'summer birthday' kids). So, by the time junior year of high school rolled around, most of the kids were 16 or 17 and their kids already had turned 18. From an athletics standpoint alone, it may have been smart thinking. That extra year of physical development can make a big difference for a teenage boy. But, that's also the age that boys, especially, start to spread their wings and want to fly on their own. Discipline - at school and at home - can become an issue.
    1 point
  47. Proseteye

    2021 Transfer Thread

    IMO every town, city, state, and country has their good places and their not so good places. Columbia Fan used to be, and maybe still is, an incredibly dedicated fan of the football team the Tigers. A few months ago something must have happened, and possibly over a period of time, to make him upset with the team and possibly those people involved with the team. He obviously knows football and is highly dedicated to the sport. Makes me think that he does a lot a research as he can produce facts and figures that I can only guess at. This being said, maybe Columbia Fan can share with us some of his frustrations in the environment with the team today and how things might have changed for the worse. A high school team cannot afford to lose a fan who is so loyal that he lived and breathed their every game.
    1 point
  48. Yeah it is and it's even tougher to learn that things can actually get worse Ik the community college I went to after high school was a downgrade from where I was a year earlier and it made me hate it more It's also tough when instead of being welcomed back when trying to help the alma mater the people with power turn their back on you and want you gone
    1 point
  49. Does it only develop in some areas because I know plenty of adults in my town who are probably worse at socialization then most high schoolers I'm around Lot of rude selfish people but hey that's why we got people here who cared more about fighting against wearing a mask to protect their fellow neighbors and were the same people bashing kids and undermining how tough having their senior year snatched from them truly was But it's possible it's just Lake City and these toxic imbeciles are an exception to the norm
    1 point
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