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To answer your question, FHSAA policies state that schools may be placed in the Rural classification if they are located in geographic areas as determined by the Rural Economic Development Initiative (REDI; Florida statute 288.0656), population density by zip code, and median family income by zip code. The Rural classification is limited to the lowest 40 populated schools that meet these criteria and commit to the Rural classification in the sport of football. Other states have wrestled with the public-private disparity. In Tennessee, private schools are placed in separate classifications and playoff brackets from public schools. In Georgia, public and private schools are placed in the same classifications, but private and public schools in the lowest 3 classifications are placed in separate playoff brackets.

I was there, made the mistake of walking out with about 4ish minutes to go when the deluge of water came. Vero was up and about to score. (they did not) I had seen more than enough football for one week. (so i thought) So, I missed the missed FG to the end. There are a lot of people frustrated, perhaps rightfully so. I will send a gentle reminder that these are HS kids and HS coaches. If they were college or NFL coaches my take might be different. At this level not all coaches are all things. Some are program builders. Some are good with the kids and get individuals better. Some are nothing more than father figures. Some are good game managers. And some are good a schemes. Some are good at more than one of these categories. Truly, I believe that none of them are masters of all. There are an elite few that ever get to that point and none of them are coaching HS. He got them to a level that program hadn't been in a REALLY long time. He should be lauded. More often than not, a HC change in HS puts the nail in the coffin of the program for a few years at a minimum. The correct assistant coach add(s) could help plug a perceived hole.

Have no partiality to either team and do think Coach J has done an excellent job at Vero over the years, but he may have over thunk the final couple of minutes of that game. He has a RB that had gained almost 250 yards for the game and instead of giving it to him 3 straight times to pick up that final first down and kill the clock, everyone was able to witness what his plan was for that final possession. Yes, hindsight is 20/20 but that did leave me scratching my head. Hats off to Lake Mary for believing till the bitter end. Miracles are real.

It was fun as hell finally getting to do the pick'ems! Thanks Nole for doing this, I know it can be time consuming trying to come up with the games every week. I appreciate everyone for playing, because without you guys I wouldn't have had anyone to beat. LOL. I will be looking forward to repeating next year!

Dillardboyz, Dillard fans need to implore your AD and Head Coach to beef up the Panthers out of district schedule. It can only help your on field performance and keep people from saying Dillard didn’t play anybody. Except for Cardinal Gibbons I don’t see any other teams in the district that would improve your status. I saw Calvary Christian and North Broward play this year. Dillard should handle both of them easily.

I get what you're saying and I'm not saying he should get fired. But my opinion the only way taking the safety makes sense is if you don't squib it. Yes, it was raining but it was also raining the whole 4th quarter. There wasn't any issues with the snap during the 4th. They didn't have any issues with ball security. You have points with everything that could've went wrong with the punt. Yes all of that is very well true and say the worst possible outcome with the punt did happen. Only outcomes would've been short field for Lake Mary, punt return for TD, mishandled snap from punter resulting in fumble recovered for TD or the same result safety. All hypotheticals can't change the outcome now. But let's go down the rabbit hole. Say Lake Mary scored off of the punt if Vero couldn't run out the clock. They would still have to convert a 2 points. Giving Vero's D another chance to come up with another big stop. If they didn't. Oh well. The worst case scenario of that. They would've went into OT. That's really the biggest gripe I see people having. There wouldn't have been an issue or an uproar of taking the safety if the decision to do a squib kick was made. But outside looking in......it just appears it was all overthinking when they could've took a simple approach to to run it and see how much yardage you can get while taking time off the clock and flip the field. Also want to chime in about them not having their starting QB for the majority of the season. Their backup eventhough he's a WR was originally their starting QB before Champ got to Vero and moved positions for him. He's basically in the same mold as Malachi Toney that played for AHP. Always played QB but athletic enough to excel at WR Just my 2 cents from an unbiased outsider

No public schools made it past the second round in 1A. It's completely unfair for a small public school to have to play in the same class as private schools. This got me wondering why they couldn't drop to Rural class? What's the difference/requirement for Rural classification?

Looking around at some programs I know of who typically are considered bad, I notice a few had winning seasons this year and/or last year, and even made the playoffs. They didn't need to be relegated down to find success. They got better on their on. Also, you and I both know FHSAA ability to take a system and make it worse. There's some really good programs who aren't quite "elite ". Consistent winning seasons and playoff appearances but don't quite win a championship. Those would be punished under a system that moves them up.

Well Mike Watkins was on the VB staff and worked for Lenny so…

That's as bad of a coaching meltdown as I've seen in high school....maybe any level of football. I texted @MarkECannon even before the roof caved in on Vero and said that maybe the rain was short circuiting Jankowski's brain out. He channeled his inner Mike Watkins (FPC coach) by not understanding that there was too much time left to be taking three quick knees for chunk losses when your opponent has two timeouts left. Unlike Mike Watkins, who at least understood he needed to punt the football away, Jankowski compounded his poor decision on the three quick kneel downs by forfeiting two points of his EIGHT POINT LEAD by having White run out of the end zone. That call can actually work under certain circumstances, but this wasn't one of them. What would have been the correct sequence? Well.... * Run Hillsman (who had 238 yards on the night) three times, telling him above all to secure the football and stay in bounds. * Run Hillsman twice, then have Monds run on a keeper after faking a third run to Hillsman, and stressing to Monds to secure the football and stay in bounds. * If that doesn't pick up a first down, you PUNT the football away. * You do those things because even if the worst case scenario happens like a scoop and score if you fumble or the punt is blocked and they score or recover a fumble and score in one play or they return the punt for a TD....you still have an EIGHT POINT LEAD, and they will STILL have to convert a 2 point PAT just to get the game to OVERTIME. Vero had what, close to 500 yards of offense on the night? I'd like their chances in OT. When Jankowski gave up two points of that 8 point lead, it automatically put Vero in danger. Yeah, it took a Hail Mary and a sheer miracle by the LM player to hand that off, but they were going to need a miracle play regardless. Did you want them to have one shot when you had an EIGHT POINT LEAD, or when you have a SIX POINT LEAD? As for the rest of the game, I really had no problem with the coaching. Vero had multiple explosive plays on offense that caused their defense to be on the field a lot more than normal, but most people find that to be an acceptable tradeoff. They also had some guys injured down the stretch, but that's just part of the game. In summary, this loss was 100% on Jankowski, and while I haven't seen any quotes from him yet, I hope he accepts the responsibility for that. He's a good coach with a lot of experience, but there is no way to polish up that final sequence.

All facts. I was in awe. Rb averaged 10+ yards per carry. Didn't take enough time off the clock with the kneels. I get taking the safety but then again I don't. The defense was playing good enough to punt it and try to flip the field. Sit back and play prevent, forcing a deeper throw and them needing a TD and conversion to tie. Instead of what transpired. The commentators were even foreshadowing everything that could go wrong, the confusion with the decisions and boy did it all go wrong. I feel for those Vero players. This was the year to do it. The RB, EJ, and #7 definitely were my co-players of the game for Vero

Pretty much what you said Ray… no idea what he was thinking, but he did get us that far. Don’t want to run him out of town or anything like that, but I do feel poor play calling cost us the game.

They should take @LAZ rankings and @Joshua Wilson rankings and combine them for one super epic ranking. Instead of a room full of zoo animals throwing shit at the wall.

@THAT S--T WAS FUNNY was first, and the rest of us losers were tied for LAST!!!!!!!!!!!

This was a big upset, but this isn't your Papaw's Chaminade team. They were limited in the passing game with a freshman QB who...well...played like a freshman. Spot on about the clock not stopping after the incompletion. How does that happen at ANY level, let alone a state title game? That was an embarrassing sequence for the officials and somebody needs to get to the bottom of that. The fumble was pretty obvious on TV, but that call can be missed if an official doesn't have the right angle to see it. The clock not stopping was next level incompetence for an entire crew to miss that.

This is not going well. The rankings are a joke. FHSAA you must adjust your mystical rankings that you use and don't tell anyone how you get it.

Same for Texas: they separate the privates into the TAPPS league, but for whatever reason, Dallas Jesuit and Houston Jesuit participate in the UIL, (the main state organization) So there are 1,200 plus public schools and 2 private schools. But neither has ever won a title or even sniffed it

6 classifications + Rural. Available here: https://fhsaa.com/news/2025/12/8/football-classifications-available-for-2026-27-2027-28.aspx

I apologize, Jambun. Fire away, ask me a legitimate question.

Have you ever heard of MaxPreps?

Several Broward schools discussing going independent and playing each other or trying for SSAA as well. I would wait until after 17th to really look at districts.

I think he is picking who he thinks will win, not who he wants to win.

You have single-handedly made an argument for performance based classes.

Last Week: 12-6 .667: Season: 2409-547 .815 CLASS 7A STATE CHAMPIONSHIP Vero Beach over Lake Mary +2 CLASS 6A STATE CHAMPIONSHIP West Boca Raton over West Broward +4 CLASS 5A STATE CHAMPIONSHIP St. Thomas Aquinas over Lakeland +4 CLASS 4A STATE CHAMPIONSHIP American Heritage over Jones +7 CLASS 3A STATE CHAMPIONSHIP Miami Northwestern over Raines +1 CLASS 2A STATE CHAMPIONSHIP Cardinal Mooney over Bolles +5 CLASS 1A STATE CHAMPIONSHIP Chaminade over Cardinal Newman +6

spot on mike

know where the easiest place on the planet is to coach from is? the bleachers, the couch, the bar. til you are put into that situation, nobody knows what kind of pressure it is. whos to say that they line up to punt and in the pouring rain a bad snap, a missed catch on the snap(punters are not the best of athletes), a shanked punt, a blocked punt. giving up the safety, ran 10 full seconds off the clock, the squib to me was the part that i questioned more than anything, kick it high and deep, in the rain, let a kid look up in the rain drops to get the ball. squib set up a chance to give them a chance to hail mary it. again, til youve worn the whistle, sat in the chair, made all the calls, told the contingent what to do and how, we will never ever know what that pressure is like. Ive flipped so many burgers off my grill in my life, but have no idea what it would be like to work at mcdonalds during rush hour and theyn need 75 of them right now. im gonna venture to say that coach feels terrible and is questioning everything right now and probably will for rest of his life. firing him isnt the answer, thats knee jerk reaction. did everyone forget that they were 14-0 before the game? after a season of not having one of the top 2028 qbs in the nation out for almost all of it, 9 or 10 games? to throw a wr in at qb and not lose stride, defintely isnt a coaching blunder...i bet he has hugged more players and told more people he was sorry for how he coached than anyone will ever do in their life. fire the coach is always the answer, but how about catch the hail mary not knock it down? did anyone say cut the kid that missed it? or we should fire the kids who got back to back false starts on punt? coach defintely didnt play reps saturday night, but it solely lies on him. but does he get any credit for any of the wins? heck no. hypocrites.... hater out.

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Yeah, one more score could have put it away.

My thoughts exactly, I work in the oil and gas industry and was at work watching this with some of the guys last night and was just telling them how another area team (FPC) had just blown their game in like fashion. The more I think and read about it the more I would like to see someone else take the helm. I think alot of the assistants are solid and don’t want to see them all leave I.e. I love coach Motta, but I also would love to see someone like one of my former teammates I played with at Vero, Zo Phillips take the reins.

You need to be more specific, such as what penalties, when, and what was the situation. Did it cost Vero points? This game boiled down to Jankowski having as bad of a coaching meltdown as I've ever seen in the last 1:18. For him to see the film of FPC v Doc Phillips, and see the huge miscalculation that Mike Watkins made, and turn right around and make an even worse decision in a similar situation is mind boggling.

Their passing defense tapered off a lil due to their CB Crutchfield being out majority of the 2nd half till the middle of the 4th. Which is one of the reasons why LM started getting deep passes off. Once he came back that's when the pass defense tightened down. He got all 3 interceptions for Vero

His game plan up until the end seemed to be working for them. Offensively, it seemed they could run at will so I think he could have done more of that, especially when using EJ White at QB as that would have limited LM time of possession, total plays they could hurt you with. When we played them this year, that was the strategy to keep their offense off the field so they could have managed that a bit better. Defensively, daring them to run while trying to take away the pass also seemed to be effective for most of the game as it led to 3 INT's. Special team punting unit wasn't instilling a lot of confidence throughout the game and with the rain it probably played into his thinking. Just my two cents.

The last game put the finishing touches to a number of games who's ending left me me saying WTF just happen! Compound that with game changing officiating, coaching decisions that evening Ray Charles could see made no good sense....... something strange was going on in fort lauderdale....just a off the cuff reaction ????

I was at the game, old time Vero people are not happy, it took Vero 44 years to get back here, and to lose a game like that, might have cost him his job

I thought that the Raines/Northwestern game was extremely well-officiated, and the game clock operator was right on the money!

Take the 32 very best teams in Florida over the past four years, teams that are state champions or regional champions of this type. Those are the teams in 6A. Teams that were consistently 2nd or 3rd round teams; they become your 5A teams. Every two years, we would promote/relegate in football. You would take the 4 worst teams in 6A and send them down (teams 28-32), and we would move up the 4 very best teams from 5A or teams (33-36). So I am not sure how good teams would be promoted over elite teams. We are talking the 4 worst out of 32, and the 4 best of 32. So we aren't talking one good season will promote you up. And yes, large schools could move all the way down to 1A, but they are moving down to 1A because they aren't good. Take one of the worst 4A teams in the state (Jacksonville Englewood). They lost to Paxon, Wolfson, and Stanton. Three solely IB schools. Englewood isn't good. Do you really think the average 1A school would be scared to play them because they are a 4A or complain because they had to play them? Remember the purpose of promotion and relegation is get good schools playing good schools and bad schools playing bad schools. As teams diminish and rise, allowing them to face similar types of teams.

Since we can’t get this year’s brackets totally ironed out, why not briefly look ahead to the upcoming Open Division bracket. Unless amended by the FHSAA Board of Directors, the Open Division will debut in 2026 as a mandatory (not optional) bracket for the top 8 teams in the FHSAA rankings after the regular season. If the Open Division was in effect this year, these would be the opening round matchups: #8 Bolles @ #1 DeLand #5 Miami NW @ #4 Buchholz #6 Mandarin @ #3 Vero Beach #7 Carrollwood Day @ #2 Cardinal Mooney Not terrible, but these are some of the teams left out (and their final ranking): Raines (#9); Armwood (#10); Edgewater (#12); Lakeland (#14); C-M (#15); STA (#17). Once again, relying solely on computer rankings may not achieve the desired goals.

Well it was a coin flip. As I told you in my last PM, I was 10 minutes from heading out the door to drive down to Florida when I saw your message. No second guessing, it is what it is. Funny won it straight up, congratulations to him.

What’s funny is @imjustafan2 private messaged me his picks and had the same as @THAT S--T WAS FUNNY except the West Broward/West Boca game and the Lake Mary/Vero game. I told him to change one because he would have had to have both games correct, and he chose to change the Lake Mary/Vero game and keep West Broward. So had he kept Lake Mary instead of WB, and they win, he would have won. Lol

It looks like that-shit-was-funny will be the 2025 champ

The easiest answer is to use a four-year rolling average of teams from the MaxPreps rankings (power points). That way, if a team in 3A has one excellent year, but three below-average years, they might move up, but they probably won't. If that same team is in the regional finals every year, despite not winning a state title, that consistency means they are ready to move up in my opinion. You are moving about 10% up and down, which means you have to be elite in your classification or at the bottom of your classification. Classes would become smaller at the top of the pyramid and larger at the bottom. Thus, to play with the elite teams, it is hard to get there. 32-32-64-64-128-128. The 128 team classifications would allow many of these SSIAA schools to face similar type programs. If a team is "recruiting" then their success will force them to move up and away from other teams who don't do that.

And another Jambun conversation circles the drain.

No. I plan on going to 6 of them. I already attended the first one.

I'm excited for the upcoming season!!! We're ready for Dillard if we line up!!!

With the exodus of smaller schools to the SSAA, as well as the expansion of the Rural classification, 1A has essentially become a private school classification (FAMU High is the only public school that I can identify in 1A). The smaller public schools will definitely face an uphill battle in the new 2A. The pendulum starts to swing back to the public schools in the new 3A. Pending any adjustments in the appeal period.

Virginia separates them as well, except for Liberty (University) Christian, who for whatever reason(s), decided they wanted to play in the public division and with their battalion of lawyers, told the VHSL they would sue them into Bolivia/oblivion if they opposed it. The Junior Pool Boys program has dominated Class AAA since they were admitted.

Although it’s didn’t occur during the regular season, Vero played Norland to a 30-30 tie during the KOC, whereas Lake Mary beat them 30-29 in week one.

The biggest factor that makes the State Semifinals and the State Championships so difficult to predict is the lack of schedule connectivity which the computer relies on very heavily. In fact, taking a look at all the finals matchups, here's a list of common opponents: Lake Mary vs Vero Beach - No Common Opponents West Boca vs West Broward - 1 Common Opponent (Western) West Boca won by 35, West Broward won by 28 Lakeland vs St Thomas Aquinas - No Common Opponents American Heritage vs Jones - No Common Opponents Miami Northwestern vs Raines - No Common Opponents Cardinal Mooney vs Bolles - No Common Opponents Chaminade vs Cardinal Newman - No Common Opponents In the case of State Championships games, the schedule chains between opponents may be 2, 3 or more links away. It can be quite difficult to predict.

A lot of SSAA teams that are not leaving are in some districts. Merritt Island Christian and Calvary Chapel play 8-man. Expect a lot of changes from this original list.

So if that was the case then that would be ok. But that would never happen. If they just called the open winner the “state champion” and the rest of the winners the “Gold bracket champ”, “silver bracket champ” etc etc Only the FHSAA can take something that is the worst in history and make it worse!