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HOLY COMPLICATION BATMAN! LOL Hey I like that their trying but you have just added: Mandatory filming of JV games. I still think a well tested power rating like a LAZ or PINKOs would work better. Seems the RPI is to stop all of us basic math coaches to be able to figure out the process/results to be able to complain about the problems!

Personally, for the larger classifications, I like the concept of districts and I like that district champions are assured of hosting at least one home playoff game. As long as there are 8 classifications, public and private schools playing together, free transfer rules, and areas of the state that put more emphasis on youth football than others, there are always going to be blowouts in the playoffs -- especially in the opening rounds. It's inevitable. But Districts change. Some teams move up a class and other teams move down a class. Coaches retire or get fired. One school or another becomes the "hot" school for a certain period of time and then, for whatever reasons, they cool off again. Regression to the mean. Winning a District title ought to get a team a little more than just some stitching on their varsity letter. It won't surprise me at all if, over time (and so long as the current system - or one like it - is in effect), 5 seeds have a better winning percentage in the state playoffs than 4 seeds, at least in 5A-8A. In a match-up between the winner of a relatively weak district and the best team in the other three districts in that same region that doesn't end up winning their district, I'd take the non-district winning team on the road most of the time. But, I still think the district winners should continue to host the first-round games.

Missing from the list is Victory Christian (2A Lakeland) ** been to last 6 state semi-finals (lost finals in '13 & won in '14); only other team in Florida to be in last 6 semi's is Cocoa.

Time for some fun folks! What do you think of these intriguing matchups? Can you think of any more? Any name changes we should consider? The Bipolar Bowl-Mourning vs Celebration The Big Nuts Bowl-Palm Coast vs Coconut Creek The Heimlich Maneuver Bowl-Deerfield Beach vs Vero Beach The Battle of the Tweets-Venice vs Braden River The Names with Too Many Syllables Bowl-Choctawhatchee vs Wewahitchka The Island Life Bowl-Merritt Island vs Fleming Island The Blowhard Bowl-Seabreeze vs Gulf Breeze The Don't Take Sides Bowl-Westside vs Eastside The Battle of the Planets-Jupiter vs Neptune Beach Fletcher The Space Cadet Bowl-Space Coast vs Astronaut The President's Bowl - Lincoln vs Jefferson The Fruit Salad Bowl - Mulberry vs Strawberry Crest The Just Squeeze This Bowl-Lemon Bay vs Orange Park The Any Port in a Storm Bowl-West Port vs North Port The Tree Fell in a Forest Bowl-Pine Forest vs Ocala Forest The Middle of the Pack Bowl-Middleton vs Middleburg The FSU Wannabe Bowl-Seminole vs Osceola The Battle for the Pearly Gates-Gateway vs Golden Gate The Battle of the Beach Bums-Atlantic Coast vs Gulf Coast The Peaceful Bowl-Niceville vs Lake Placid The Battle of the Sisters Bowl-Kathleen vs Carol City The Green Thumb Bowl-Plant vs Plant City The Run for the Hills Bowl-Hollywood Hills vs Zephyrhills The Muddy Waters Bowl-Clearwater vs Crystal River The Gimme History for $200 Bowl-Columbus vs Lafayette The Ride the Pine Bowl-Pine Forest vs Pine Ridge The Wrong Side of Town Bowl-Northeast(St Pete) vs Northeast(Ft Lauderdale) The Home on the Range Bowl-Lakewood Ranch vs Wiregrass Ranch The Florida Frozen Tundra Bowl-Winter Springs vs Frostproof The Big O Bowl-Oviedo vs Spoto The Only Cheaters Recruit Bowl-Bolles vs St Thomas Aquinas The Michael Jackson Memorial Bowl-Miami Jackson vs Jacksonville Jackson The Nice Catholic Boys Bowl-Bishop Moore vs Bishop Verot The Peezy Nightmare Bowl-Dunedin vs IMG Academy The Calling All Transfers Bowl-Chaminade-Madonna vs Armwood The Red Tide Bowl-Tarpon Springs vs Manatee The Communist Party Values Bowl-Liberty vs Freedom The Coaching Merry-Go-Round Bowl-Glades Central vs Pahokee The Turn Your Head and Cough Bowl-Dr Phillips vs Dr Krop The Does It Really Mater Bowl-Mater Academy vs Westland Hialeah

Here is a 19 year compilation of conference rankings using all 757 currently active college teams after being placed in their current conference. MAF= Avg. Member Rank among 757 currently active programs from 2000-2018. MAPR = Avg. Member Power Rank (Strength) among 757 currently active programs from 2000-2018. Rank * Div * Conference * MAF * MAPR * Best * 2nd Best * Worst 1 * FBS * Southeastern * 37.0 * 116.28 * Alabama * LSU * Vanderbilt 2 * FBS * Big 12 * 41.1 * 115.51 * Oklahoma * Texas * Kansas 3 * FBS * Pacific 12 * 42.2 * 114.84 * Southern Cal * Oregon * Colorado 4 * FBS * Big 10 * 46.3 * 113.63 * Ohio St * Wisconsin * Indiana 5 * FBS * Atlantic Coast * 46.7 * 113.42 * Florida St * Clemson * Duke 6 * FBS * Mountain West * 87.2 * 104.28 * Boise St * Fresno St * San Jose St 7 * FBS * American Athletic * 87.7 * 103.96 * Cincinnati * South Florida * Tulane 8 * FBS * Mid-American * 111.4 * 99.54 * Northern Illinois * Toledo * Eastern Michigan 9 * FBS * FBS Independent * 113.2 * 100.23 * Notre Dame * Brigham Young * Liberty 10 * FBS * Conference USA * 127.2 * 97.18 * Southern Miss * Marshall * UNC-Charlotte 11 * FBS * Sun Belt * 139.4 * 94.89 * Appalachian St * Troy * Georgia St 12 * FCS * Missouri Valley * 144.8 * 93.83 * North Dakota St * Northern Iowa * Indiana St 13 * FCS * Big Sky * 158.8 * 91.64 * Montana * Eastern Washington * Northern Colorado 14 * FCS * Colonial Athletic * 171.1 * 90.17 * James Madison * Villanova * Stony Brook 15 * FCS * FCS Independent * 197.3 * 86.42 * North Dakota * North Alabama * Hampton 16 * FCS * Southern * 197.8 * 86.70 * Wofford * Furman * VMI 17 * FCS * Ivy League * 213.2 * 84.58 * Harvard * Pennsylvania * Columbia 18 * FCS * Ohio Valley * 223.5 * 83.18 * Jacksonville St * Eastern Kentucky * Austin Peay 19 * FCS * Southland * 229.1 * 83.63 * McNeese St * Sam Houston St * Houston Baptist 20 * FCS * Patriot League * 236.5 * 81.68 * Lehigh * Colgate * Georgetown DC 21 * D2 * Great Lakes Intercoll. * 248.3 * 80.63 * Grand Valley St * Saginaw Valley St * Davenport 22 * D2 * Mid-America Intercoll. * 252.0 * 80.24 * NW Missouri St * Pittsburg St * Lindenwood MO 23 * FCS * Big South * 274.5 * 78.30 * Kennesaw St * Gardner-Webb * Campbell 24 * FCS * Mid-Eastern Athletic * 299.9 * 74.81 * South Carolina St * Bethune-Cookman * Savannah St 25 * FCS * Southwestern Athletic * 310.5 * 73.36 * Grambling St * Southern U. * Mississippi Valley St 26 * D2 * Lone Star * 310.7 * 73.82 * Midwestern St * Tarleton St * TX Permian Basin 27 * D2 * Great Northwest Athl. * 319.9 * 72.90 * Central Washington * Western Oregon * Simon Fraser 28 * D2 * Gulf South * 324.9 * 73.29 * Valdosta St * Delta St * Mississippi College 29 * FCS * Northeast * 331.5 * 71.43 * Duquesne * Sacred Heart * St Francis PA 30 * D2 * Northern Sun Intercoll. * 333.5 * 71.66 * Minnesota-Duluth * MSU-Mankato * Minnesota-Crookston 31 * D2 * South Atlantic * 335.3 * 71.14 * Carson-Newman * Catawba * Limestone 32 * D2 * Pennsylvania State * 348.0 * 70.05 * Indiana PA * California PA * Seton Hill 33 * D2 * Great American * 351.3 * 69.76 * Harding * Henderson St * Southern Nazarene 34 * FCS * Pioneer * 363.9 * 68.66 * San Diego U. * Dayton * Valparaiso 35 * D3 * Wisconsin Intercoll. * 365.9 * 68.07 * UW-Whitewater * UW-Oshkosh * UW-River Falls 36 * D2 * D-II Independent * 366.8 * 68.84 * UNC-Pembroke * UNC-Pembroke * UNC-Pembroke 37 * NAIA * Frontier * 380.2 * 66.94 * Carroll MT * Southern Oregon * Montana St-Northern 38 * D2 * Rocky Mountain * 384.4 * 66.90 * Colorado St-Pueblo * Chadron St * South Dakota Tech 39 * D2 * Great Midwest Athl. * 401.3 * 65.40 * Hillsdale * Findlay * Kentucky Wesleyan 40 * D2 * Great Lakes Valley * 415.6 * 63.55 * Indianapolis * Truman St * Lincoln MO 41 * D2 * Mountain East * 428.4 * 62.50 * Shepherd * Charleston WV * Virginia-Wise 42 * D2 * Southern Intercoll. * 433.6 * 61.93 * Tuskegee * Albany St GA * Central State 43 * D2 * Northeast-10 * 441.0 * 61.16 * New Haven * LIU Post * Pace 44 * D3 * Ohio Athletic * 447.9 * 60.56 * Mount Union * John Carroll * Wilmington 45 * D3 * Minnesota Intercoll. * 448.2 * 60.07 * St John's MN * St Thomas * Hamline 46 * D3 * D-III Independent * 448.3 * 60.41 * Thomas More * Thomas More * Thomas More 47 * D2 * Central Intercollegiate * 465.8 * 58.58 * Winston-Salem St * Bowie St * Lincoln PA 48 * D3 * Iowa Intercollegiate * 479.2 * 57.36 * Wartburg * Central IA * Loras 49 * NAIA * Mid-States * 479.9 * 57.86 * St Francis IN * Marian * Missouri Baptist 50 * D3 * Conf.of Ill. and Wisc. * 480.8 * 57.29 * Wheaton * North Central * North Park 51 * D3 * Northwest * 482.3 * 57.14 * Linfield * Whitworth * Lewis & Clark 52 * D3 * American Southwest * 486.3 * 56.92 * Mary Hardin-Baylor * Hardin-Simmons * Southwestern TX 53 * NAIA * Great Plains Athl. * 498.5 * 55.81 * Morningside * Northwestern IA * Dordt 54 * D3 * Liberty League * 499.1 * 55.51 * Ithaca * Hobart * St Lawrence 55 * NAIA * Heart of America * 501.0 * 55.34 * MidAmerica Nazarene * Grand View * Culver-Stockton 56 * D3 * New Jersey Athl. * 507.6 * 54.51 * Wesley * Salisbury * Southern Virginia 57 * D3 * Empire Eight * 508.0 * 54.75 * St John Fisher * Cortland St * Morrisville St 58 * NAIA * Mid-South * 520.2 * 54.06 * Reinhardt * Georgetown KY * Cincinnati Christian 59 * D3 * Centennial * 525.9 * 53.11 * Johns Hopkins * Muhlenberg * Juniata 60 * D3 * Old Dominion Athl. * 534.4 * 52.44 * Bridgewater VA * Hampden-Sydney * Shenandoah 61 * D3 * Southern Athletic * 535.3 * 52.90 * Trinity TX * Centre * Sewanee 62 * D3 * So. California Intercoll. * 543.8 * 51.06 * Redlands * Cal Lutheran * Whittier 63 * D3 * The Presidents' Athl. * 553.1 * 50.30 * Washington & Jefferson * Case Western * St Vincent 64 * D3 * North Coast Athletic * 564.1 * 47.90 * Wittenberg * Wabash * Hiram 65 * D3 * Middle Atlantic * 565.5 * 47.39 * Delaware Valley * Widener * Alvernia 66 * D3 * Michigan Intercollegiate * 572.9 * 46.17 * Hope * Trine * Finlandia 67 * D3 * USA South * 583.1 * 46.94 * Huntingdon * Brevard * Greensboro 68 * NAIA * Sooner Athletic * 595.9 * 45.36 * Ottawa AZ * Langston * Texas Wesleyan 69 * NAIA * North Star Athletic * 596.3 * 45.12 * Dickinson St * Valley City St * Presentation 70 * NAIA * Kansas Coll. Athl. * 608.7 * 43.80 * Ottawa KS * Friends * Bethel KS 71 * D3 * New England * 613.8 * 42.86 * Springfield * Worcester Polytech * Maine Maritime 72 * D3 * Heartland Coll. Athletic * 614.2 * 42.82 * Franklin * Mount St Joseph * Earlham 73 * D3 * Midwest * 619.1 * 41.64 * St Norbert * Monmouth IL * Lawrence 74 * NAIA * NAIA Independent * 622.3 * 43.32 * Indiana Wesleyan * Allen * Lawrence Tech 75 * D3 * Massachusetts SCA * 639.9 * 38.96 * Western Connecticut * Framingham St * Mass-Maritime 76 * D3 * Northern Athletics * 646.8 * 37.74 * Concordia WI * Lakeland * Eureka 77 * D3 * Commonwealth Coast * 661.3 * 35.23 * Western New England * Endicott * New England U. 78 * D3 * Upper Midwest Athl. * 678.4 * 32.50 * Northwestern MN * St Scholastica * Crown 79 IND Non-Affiliate 680.7 28.83 * Virginia-Lynchburg * Apprentice-Nwpt News * Trinity Bible 80 * D3 * Eastern Collegiate 701.2 29.83 * Husson * SUNY-Maritime * Alfred State

Oh wait a computer says the SEC is the best. Your computer is biased.

Be careful you are starting to sound like me and my rants about returning to district champions and runner-ups. But if we are going to keep the current system, all they needed to do was spread points out more for victories and losses. No longer are playoff Tier 1 teams gaining less points than a victory over a Tier 4's loss. Big wins count more. Tier 1 Victory: 70 points Tier 2 Victory: 55 points Tier 3 Victory: 45 points Tier 4 Victory: 40 points Tier 1 Loss: 35 points Tier 2 Loss: 30 points Tier 3 Loss: 20 points Tier 4 Loss: 5 points Again the question comes down to when deciding who makes the playoff, is the goal to give every team that has a chance a spot (even if this allows teams that have no chance in) or only teams that have a chance to win (but leaves 1 or 2 teams that have a chance out)?

You can stop bashing Dunedin we are officially going independent and going to create a schedule that includes the villages school for the blind combined with leto, Gulf, Pasco etc for the next 2 years. I exaggerate but this is something I have been saying Dunedin should do for some years... They have to play teams that they can actually compete against gain some wins and confidence and perhaps attract more kids to the program.

Got to see Zeke Mowatt play against SE high school in 77, SE had a kid on their team that year, that I swear was the closest thing in body build to Herschel Walker that I had ever seen in as far as before weight training became a thing at the HS level. Name was Zontina Jackson. Saw Paul Piurowski from Sarasota play against Manatee, he had a fumble recovery for a TD that game. Sarasota had some really good teams back then, when they were coached by Charlie Cleland! I've always been a Gator fan, but my year up at Tallahassee and going to Lincoln HS (Bowden's 1st year at FSU), allowed me to be introduced to Ginger and Jeff Bowden. I found both of them to be pompous a-holes, and it just solidified my dislike for all things FSU. <grins> 181 what are your thoughts of Kerwin Bell being named OC at USF? He's been successful everywhere he's gone winning a Nat'l title at Valdosta State this year. I see his resume much in the same light I looked at Joe Kinnan's........I think Bell's a winner and will do great things at USF for the offense!

While at the bottom Duval is demonstrably bad per the above. Duval's public schools won two state titles this year: Mandarin and Raines. So, in my opinion, that leaves Pinellas as the sole county in third place.

You could probably add Orlando Evans to that list. In 1991 it was co-state champion and in the 1980s through 2001 was a perennial playoff contender. Today, Evans struggles to win two games in a season. It is not as if athletes are not there. Basketball still does pretty well and the soccer program has had some success over the past 10 seasons. A good staff with the commitment and administrative buy in, could potentially return Evans to playoff contender status.

The Green Thumb Bowl-Plant vs Plant City That would actually be the Battle for Legacy of Henry B. Plant Bowl https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_B._Plant

if you play 1 play in a quarter that is a quarter. lots of coaches are going to accidentally break this rule and some will intentionally do it. lets be honest it will be hard to track.

8A teams should not be allowed to be independent. If you are that big and can't compete just drop the sport.

Here is is folks.."Just ask RIPI" for up to the minute RPI numbers, guaranteed 50% or less margin of error. And for a small fee you can get with one with your team logo. One can also pay extra to get the special "bitch and whine" feature. When coach complains to RIPI about the numbers, RIPI will console you by making statements like "You're right , coach. This new system sucks."

No problem, Gatorman. They are way ahead of us. Each coach will be given a football-shaped computer named "RIPI." All coach will have to do is "ASK RIPI" and he will get an up-to-the-minute update on the playoff status of his team or any other.

interesting fact...Between 1994-2010, a Miami-Dade team won the 6A state title(the largest class at the time) 10 out of 17 years. Since 2011, a Miami-Dade team has won an 8A title just twice in 8 years...South Dade in 2013 and Southridge in 2016

Ron Simmons, Jimmy Jordan, and Paul Piurowski were all Tampa Bay Bandits. Billy Capece was the Bucs kicker in the early 80's and was the victim of one of John McKay's best one-liners. After missing a few easy kicks in a game, a reporter asked McKay about Capece's status with the team and McKay famously said: "Capece... is kaput." I agree about the lineman. In that era, the O-line got off the ball much, much faster and hit much harder initially because most teams ran the ball. You wanted quickness off the ball to get the Dlineman out of the way and so the guards could pull. The era of the fat, behemoth lineman has made the game less technically enjoyable.

http://www.hudl.com/v/2Aqjw6 Ok what am I missing here with this kid? I mean he's 5'8 but that just can not be the reason not one big program has offered this kid. Mandarin WR Demario Douglas. 1300+ yds 16 TDS WTF? Noticed him while watching tape on Mandarin QB Carson Beck and just couldn't help but ask myself who the Fk is #1?? So I look him up...and I'm disappointed. FAU? UAB? Don't even care if he's 5'8. Watch the film and tell me I'm wrong!!

Yeah my point was STA's schedule didn't look fancy. Nothing new, no big travel etc, but the reality was those 6A Broward publics plus Ely were very strong back then. STA, Dillard, Ely, Plantation, DFB were all in the same league, but Ely and STA had much easier paths not being in 6A. Believe me STA would have had plenty more 2nd and 3rd round exits if they were in 6A back then, and I'm not sure they win one just because it was such a grind. Shit was rough in 6A back then!

Thanks for the response. Completely agree that ... Broward was a different scene back then and much tougher Going outside Broward then did not necessarily mean it would be a tougher game. Chaminade would have had difficulty with Ely, Dillard and Deerfield in certain years. Ely, Dillard and Deerfield were not powerhouses every year between 2000-2005. Deerfield was strong 2003-2005, but not terribly special 2000-2002(their deep run in 01 was the result of an easy playoff path and then Apopka waxed them). Dillard's program dropped off big-time in 03 and did not recover. Ely was pretty tough througout, but not every team was like their 02 team. I never said St Thomas had an easy schedule back then...just a pedestrian one compared to Chaminade's. It wasn't simply the teams Chaminade played, but the fact that most of their games against much larger schools were on the road. If we want to question the fact that Chaminade did not play some of the Broward powers back then, fair enough. But I think that also forces us to question how successful teams like St Thomas and the Broward powers of the day would have been had they routinely met the true Miami-Dade powers of that day. Actually, IMO, the late 80's were the best times for the Broward teams versus Dade.

I understand. It would have been better for me to say weak/average rather than just "weak." They are not bad programs. I do think they are historically(key word) rather mediocre when compared to teams from around the state. Below are individual team playoff records versus playoff opponents from outside Hillsborough. Total record of these teams is 31-80(I intentionally excluded the obviously strong programs like Plant, Armwood, etc) A number of those 31 wins came against not-so-great Pinellas schools. Some Hillsborough teams might do well when playing in-county teams during a season, but many of these teams have historically struggled when playing teams from outside the county. Because of Hillsborough's regular season scheduling and their relatively limited exposure to opponents outside west central Florida in the playoffs, it's a bit difficult to judge some Hillsborough teams. I lived there for quite a few years and to be very honest, was disappointed at the level of play of a number of the teams, especially considering the success Hillsborough had in the very early days. Blake 0-1 Bloomingdale 2-3 Brandon 2-6 Chamberlain 5-16 Durant 1-3 East Bay 0-3 Freedom 0-2 Gaither 4-6 King 1-5 Lennard 0-0 Leto 1-4 Middleton 2-0 Newsome 0-2 Plant City 2-6 Riverview 1-3 Sickles 0-3 Spoto 1-2 Steinbrenner 0-1 Strawberry Crest 0-0 Tampa Bay Tech 6-8 Wharton 3-5

No doubt, Jessica. What's funny is that there were great teams of the past who did not get much recognition because there were so many fewer teams made the playoffs back then. Imagine today if just two Miami-Dade teams amongst all of the classes advanced in the playoffs...imagine how many good teams would get left behind. This is why it is difficult to compare the results of today versus those of yesteryear. The playoffs were a whole different ballgame back then. From round 1 you were in a battle. Manatee winning 3 state titles in the 80's may not sound that impressive, but winning three titles in a decade back then would likely be on the same scale as winning 6 today.

Excellent research! St. Petersburg Catholic made their only state semi final in 2004. We fought hard but came up short against Pahokee. I remember how much had to go right for us to even get to that point. It's hard to imagine teams making the state semi's so often unless they're a legit powerhouse even with as many classifications as we have today. I'm not sure how 2019 will turn out but the teams that have earned 5 state semi's in the 2010's will have spent at least 50% of the decade with the designation as a state qualifying team. Florida is regularly listed as a top 3 state in the country for football. Those teams deserve some serious respect for getting that far as often as they do.

I think 181pl liked this one. Thanks for sharing all of the great information. It is Jimmy Jordan(right) and Wally(Woodham), who both played for coaching legend Gene Cox at Leon High. Imagine two players of that talent sharing the spotlight today LOL Those guys were real team players. http://www.nolefan.org/garnet/seminole12.html Check out the one season passing yardages of those two mentioned in the article above. 3500+yards in a season is incredible even by today's standards. Only 10 FL hs qb's have ever done it. To put up those kinds of numbers in high school 40+ years ago...I cannot begin to tell you how astronomical that was, because the game was nothing like today. It is weird seeing their names/dates in the record books with everyone else from the 2000's and later.. a sign of how extraordinary they were..and Bowden saw that.

That was the year I became an FSU fan (I was 10).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1979/11/23/two-headed-qb-sparks-florida-state/2bdb02ff-0bdc-41e4-8519-7d57493acd66/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.8cf95733532a

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http://goifl.com/sports/fball/2015-16/bios/greenBay/buie_chevelle_yi88

Hate that Ely is so weak. I remember when STA had to play Ely they were a serious force. I think Ely would have done well in some other divisions around 2005-20010 when STA was just dominant. Ely gave them some of the closest games in the playoffs.

What ever happened to Chavell Buie? He had a knee injury or something right? Seeing him go ape on defending Texas champ Abiliene (highest classification) was priceless! I remember seeing a video of some dudes from Texas and they were straight dumbfounded at the result lol. edit found it!!!!

Duval is the perfect example of a top heavy county Very little middle ground, either they have teams with loaded rosters or they are transfer feeders for ones who are Right now it seems the hot teams in duval is Lee, Raines, Trinity Christian Then Mandarin starting to come into play Then you got sandalwood and Fletcher on side closest to beach as well as solid ones like Bolles, Ribault and university Christian Rest are basically feeding those schools as their better players transfer to one of the above listed schools and Duval has always had laxed movement of players even before the new rules

They benefited from reputation earned the prior two years.

They looked better at end of the year but honestly darter they didn't look top 10 at any point in the season Had they been around 20s or 30s they would be very close to where they were by end of season All I'm saying is they were only ones who didn't look like a top 10 team at any point of season, the remaining top 10 teams at least showed at some point in the season they belonged at that ranking (whether beginning or end of season) I would make similar argument for immokalee who also never looked at the level they were ranked They would be my second choice for biggest bust

But they made it to the third round regional final). It is hard to say a third round team was a bust. Apopka beat them handily and exited sooner. Oh DP, Oh DP ...

My vote for biggest "busts" of the season. Atlantic(8A)-lost first round of playoffs Clay(5A)-did not make playoffs and finished 4-6

There's 2 upcoming juniors who had great numbers as sophomores this season. Cocoa's DJ Arroyo and Viera's Bryce Norton.

..for some perspective. Below are some teams that were powerhouses in certain decades. Despite their dominance, they did not appear in more than 5 state semifinals that decade. Now, due to the increase in classes, 5+ semi appearances in a decade is becoming fairly common. We even have teams making the semis every year. Is it any wonder people have grown to have unrealistic expectations of teams? Imagine a team like Cocoa moving up in class and not making the semis after 12 straight semi appearances. I would imagine that anything less today would be considered a great disappointment amongst their fans. Lincoln in the 00's-5 state semi appearances Southridge in the 90's-5 state semi appearances Bradenton Southeast in the 90's-4 state semi appearances Manatee in the 80's-4 state semi appearances Clewiston in the 80's-4 state semi appearances Merritt Island in the 70's-5 state semi appearances

well in true Floridahsfootball fashion someone didn't run it every week and then stopped all together.

no problem douchebag. I can always count on you to say something stupid.

knowing how well you predict I'll pick all the opposite

RPI system...yet another method to figure out which teams get the pleasure of being eliminated in the first round (see my prior threads on how well, or not-so-well, the "bubble" teams have performed in the playoffs). And as far as home field advantage, I believe that has not held back the best teams from winning titles, regardless of how determined.

That 6-quarter rule is going to be an administrative nightmare for somebody. Does one play in a quarter constitute playing in that quarter? Who's going to keep track of how many plays and in which quarters a kid played? I can't wait until the end of the year when some team comes forward claiming a kid played in more than 6 quarters in a week and that this should result in a forfeit for the kid's team, which then results in a loss for that team, which then changes the Category a team is in, which then affects another teams Power Ranking Average, which then determines who makes the playoffs (or, if the new rules are in place, affects a team's RPI, which then determines who gets into the playoffs and/or who gets to host and who has to travel). I can see it now. "Uh, Mr. HUDL, there's a process server at the door with a subpoena who needs digital copies of all your varsity and JV game film on Random High School to determine if Johnny Jones played in more than 6 quarters in any week this past season." Administrative nightmares aside, what's a reasonable recovery period? In most counties, don't they play JV games on Thursdays and Varsity games on Fridays? Playing in two games on back-to-back nights is going to be hard on kids. Yeah, I understand that kids who play 4 quarters of a JV game one night aren't likely to get much playing time the next night in the varsity game. And kids who are expected to play 4 quarters of a varsity game probably won't be asked to play much in the JV game the night before. But, still... coaches looking to gain an edge or win a game have been known to do things that aren't necessarily in every kids' best interests. By the way, how are OT's handled? Are they considered an extra quarter?

So you have to schedule a team, that's going to schedule good teams, and the teams that they scheduled will have to schedule good teams, and those teams will have to schedule good teams, and then those teams will have to schedule good teams, also ............... So how do you know who to play???

Plant is 49-18 in the FHSAA playoffs.

They also destroyed STA ( I think it was 04 or 05) So we now know it isn't Lakeland, STA or Madison County

There goes my second guess

Great catch, Darter. Yes, St Thomas hung 59 on Lakeland in the 2008 title game, Lakeland's worst ever playoff defeat. And their second worst.... in 2010, Plant came to Lakeland and beat them 48-6 in a state semi. Back in the 90's, Sarasota Riverview beat Lakeland 55-21. Lakeland, on average, has allowed 17 points per game in the playoffs over the years.

Gosh not the entire schedule, but this is getting me giddy about the 2019 season already and it is just Day 4 of the New Year... OH MY!!!!

1 . Chauncey Gardner Johnson #23 Florida Gators. 2 Jawaan Taylor # 65 Florida Gators. 3.Freddie booth Lloyd # 99 Temple University 4.Folston # 40 Pitt University 5. Jamel Dean #12 Auburn University