FHSAA walking around with their chest out! I like it....Do you?

[THAT S--T WAS FUNNY]

Well I guess hell froze over. FHSAA making their presence known for the first time in a while.

[SportsFan]

1 minute ago, THAT S--T WAS FUNNY said:

Well I guess hell froze over. FHSAA making their presence known for the first time in a while.

While they are at it I'll be glad to name some more schools that should be investigated 

[Zachk1003]

1 minute ago, THAT S--T WAS FUNNY said:

Well I guess hell froze over. FHSAA making their presence known for the first time in a while.

Was not expecting this to happen at all its a good thing the fhsaa is doing this and they're making a statement to everyone 

[Jullian]

FINALLY! Agree. Need to use a fine tooth comb from WPB to Homestead……

[THAT S--T WAS FUNNY]

12 minutes ago, Zachk1003 said:

Was not expecting this to happen at all its a good thing the fhsaa is doing this and they're making a statement to everyone 

Its a great thing. In the TFA case they seemed to come down pretty hard. Hopefully these types of consequences will deter some of this chaos and bring some order back to high school athletics. 

[Dr. D]

So according to reports, the school self-reported that one student exceeded the "Eight Semesters of Eligibility" Bylaw (9.5.1).  The FHSAA then applied Bylaw 10.2.1, which states that if an ineligible player participates in an athletic contest, forfeiture of the game is automatic and mandatory.  Seems the FHSAA didn't do anything other than apply its own rules, so not sure I'd read too much into this particular case.

[THAT S--T WAS FUNNY]

9 minutes ago, Dr. D said:

So according to reports, the school self-reported that one student exceeded the "Eight Semesters of Eligibility" Bylaw (9.5.1).  The FHSAA then applied Bylaw 10.2.1, which states that if an ineligible player participates in an athletic contest, forfeiture of the game is automatic and mandatory.  Seems the FHSAA didn't do anything other than apply its own rules, so not sure I'd read too much into this particular case.

I'm sure this isn't the first time something from Dade County ended up on the desk of the FHSAA. They didn't turn a blind eye and give a slap on the wrist this time and actually flexed their muscles. BOUT TIME!

[CoachGraham]

I love it. There's plenty more to come I hope...

[PinellasFB]

13 hours ago, Dr. D said:

So according to reports, the school self-reported that one student exceeded the "Eight Semesters of Eligibility" Bylaw (9.5.1).  

How does this work for the kids that play on varsity in their 8th grade, and sometimes 7th grade, years?  I know it's allowed if you have an attached middle school (unfair advantage to privates again) but they will still exceed 8 semesters so how do they get around that part?

[CoachGraham]

Just now, PinellasFB said:

How does this work for the kids that play on varsity in their 8th grade, and sometimes 7th grade, years?  I know it's allowed if you have an attached middle school (unfair advantage to privates again) but they will still exceed 8 semesters so how do they get around that part?

I believe there's language that states that your technical "eligibility" is from when you enter the ninth grade. So *technically* you can think of middle school players as playing on some sort of waiver-type thing. They're the exception, not the rule. 

[PinellasFB]

Another thing I was wondering about, what happens if this gets discovered during the playoffs?  Do they just forfeit the next game but any results prior are just vacated as wins but the results stand (for the teams they beat)?

[Perspective]

36 minutes ago, PinellasFB said:

Another thing I was wondering about, what happens if this gets discovered during the playoffs?  Do they just forfeit the next game but any results prior are just vacated as wins but the results stand (for the teams they beat)?

For what it's worth, in my experience, the FHSAA has a tendency to let things play out during the playoffs and then make final determinations/determine punishments once the playoffs are over (often weeks, sometimes months, after).  It's as if they just hope the team that's going to get punished will simply lose somewhere along the way and then it really won't be a big deal.  Occasionally, that team ends up going all the way, winning the title on the field, and then has to vacate the title (see Armwood a decade or so ago). 

Personally, I'd rather see the FHSAA take swift action (affording the parties involved all appropriate due process) so that teams in the early rounds of the playoffs don't run the risk of getting beaten by the team that gets punished.  That's especially true the further we are along in the playoff process -- I want to see two eligible teams playing for the state title.  But that's just me. 

[SportsFan]

24 minutes ago, Perspective said:

For what it's worth, in my experience, the FHSAA has a tendency to let things play out during the playoffs and then make final determinations/determine punishments once the playoffs are over (often weeks, sometimes months, after).  It's as if they just hope the team that's going to get punished will simply lose somewhere along the way and then it really won't be a big deal.  Occasionally, that team ends up going all the way, winning the title on the field, and then has to vacate the title (see Armwood a decade or so ago). 

Personally, I'd rather see the FHSAA take swift action (affording the parties involved all appropriate due process) so that teams in the early rounds of the playoffs don't run the risk of getting beaten by the team that gets punished.  That's especially true the further we are along in the playoff process -- I want to see two eligible teams playing for the state title.  But that's just me. 

That's because they love to take the copout anywhere they can 

[SportsFan]

1 hour ago, PinellasFB said:

How does this work for the kids that play on varsity in their 8th grade, and sometimes 7th grade, years?  I know it's allowed if you have an attached middle school (unfair advantage to privates again) but they will still exceed 8 semesters so how do they get around that part?

It's not just private schools 

Most rural public schools are the same way 

 

Williston, Fort White, Union County all have it 

[THAT S--T WAS FUNNY]

Your high school eligibility clock doesn't start until you are enrolled in 9th grade. Middle school students are allowed to participate in high school sports at schools that are K-12 or 6-12. This is huge in sports like wrestling. Kids will attend a K-12 school in 6-8 grade and then transfer to their school of choice for high school. You now have five and six time state champions in wrestling. Last year Georgia passed a law prohibiting middle school athletes from participating in High school sports. 

[DarterBlue2]

7 minutes ago, THAT S--T WAS FUNNY said:

Your high school eligibility clock doesn't start until you are enrolled in 9th grade. Middle school students are allowed to participate in high school sports at schools that are K-12 or 6-12. This is huge in sports like wrestling. Kids will attend a K-12 school in 6-8 grade and then transfer to their school of choice for high school. You now have five and six time state champions in wrestling. Last year Georgia passed a law prohibiting middle school athletes from participating in High school sports. 

To be honest, I think that should be done here. Having middle school kids play high school sports not only gives certain teams a clear advantage, but, depending on the sport, it puts the kids at risk of injury. This is especially true of the contact sports. Having a 14 or 13 year old square off against a 18 year old in most circumstances is not wise. 

[MarkECannon]

I was the sixth man on the varsity basketball team at St Stephens Episcopal in Bradenton as an 8th grader.  Joined the team late because of youth league football.  We had a very attractive girl who was a very good athlete on the team.  She was the first girl to play boys basketball in the state of Florida.  I always came off the bench at the beginning of the 2nd quarter to replace her.  When we played on the road I would regularly get booed and heckled because young men wanted her on the floor instead of me so they could watch this beautiful young woman play.  I didn’t get upset because if I was them I might do the same.  I tell you this because if I wouldn’t have been able to play as an 8th grader I wouldn’t have learned at an early stage of life the trouble a woman could cause.

[Perspective]

23 minutes ago, MarkECannon said:

I was the sixth man on the varsity basketball team at St Stephens Episcopal in Bradenton as an 8th grader.  Joined the team late because of youth league football.  We had a very attractive girl who was a very good athlete on the team.  She was the first girl to play boys basketball in the state of Florida.  I always came off the bench at the beginning of the 2nd quarter to replace her.  When we played on the road I would regularly get booed and heckled because young men wanted her on the floor instead of me so they could watch this beautiful young woman play.  I didn’t get upset because if I was them I might do the same.  I tell you this because if I wouldn’t have been able to play as an 8th grader I wouldn’t have learned at an early stage of life the trouble a woman could cause.

Did you at least get the chance to give her a little smack on the backside when you subbed in for her?    

(Yeah, yeah, I know . . . politically incorrect.  But you still smiled a little when you played that scene out in your head, didn't you?)  

[THAT S--T WAS FUNNY]

22 hours ago, DarterBlue2 said:

To be honest, I think that should be done here. Having middle school kids play high school sports not only gives certain teams a clear advantage, but, depending on the sport, it puts the kids at risk of injury. This is especially true of the contact sports. Having a 14 or 13 year old square off against a 18 year old in most circumstances is not wise. 

I think its ok in a sport like wrestling becuase most of the middle school aged kids that wrestle high school are state or national level type kids and usually are in the 106, 113 120lb weight classes. Although years ago the standout LB from Dr Phillips Dillon Meeks was a state runner up at 195lb weight class as an 8th grader. That kid was a stud being able to do that in a grown mans weight class.

[MarkECannon]

5 hours ago, Perspective said:

Did you at least get the chance to give her a little smack on the backside when you subbed in for her?    

(Yeah, yeah, I know . . . politically incorrect.  But you still smiled a little when you played that scene out in your head, didn't you?)  

She was a senior at the time.  She was engaged to the older brother of our best player.  I would be less than honest if I didn’t admit I fantasized about more than a smack.  I apologize TMI.