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First I want to express my apologies for my absence the last few months. Without going into much detail I have had some personal life struggles I have been dealing with on top of figuring out the direction to take FloridaHSFootball.com in. Things have finally settled out some over the last few weeks although I am not completely out of the woods just yet. Some of the decisions about what direction to take FloridaHSFootball.com have been forming over this time while I went through things. Part of me wondered if it was time to go, but really it is not at all. Thankfully, a loyal supporter near me in Gainesville decided to put their mouth where their money is and did a little investing and today FloridaHSFootball.com launched its first-ever Mobile App. With that said it comes with the sunset of the MVP Membership Subscriptions and thus FloridaHSFootball.com will be 100% free for the first time in a while. This comes as needing to get the clearances with Apple and Google and the current subscription platform we have is not syncing with Apple's system nor with the App itself. Its best we go in this direction to grow fans again and being able to put them facing forward with an app on their phone going forward. Here are the download links for the apps: iOS (Apple): https://apps.apple.com/us/app/floridahsfootball-com/id6477621728 Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.floridahsfootball.app&hl=en_US&gl=US For now the forums will not be available directly in the app. At some point I maybe looking at changing the whole forum software that could eventually integrate into the app. It will be a while before this happens so things will go on as they are here. I also apologize for any of the spam and troll accounts that have managed to find their way around the security protocols in setting up new accounts. It seems every day these things find ways to pass through control systems. I am going to be looking at getting this solved and will keep an eye on things here as we go along. Please feel free to reach out to me if you all need anything, want to chat or have any suggestions. -- Josh

Or maybe he left because he values his integrity.

Almost thought this was Jambun lol

And that first round matchup between Chaminade and Franklin County would be compelling.

@nolebull813 @SportsFan Hi guys, let's remember this is a high school football forum and this specific thread is regarding 2024 schedules, let's please keep it to that and be respectful to others, even to those who we may dislike or disagree with. I thought we're all grown adults here, but you two are acting childish by calling others names and saying they have a low IQ, I'm not saying you have to like PC Gridiron but at least show some respect, PC Gridiron is very knowledgeable about Polk County football and does a lot to help and promote high school athletics in his county. Yes, Kathleen has been awful the last several years and I agree with you they would have lost to most JV teams in the state, but PC Gridiron is still technically correct by referring to them as a large school, Kathleen is Class 5A compared to Victory Christian who's Class 1A. By the way, I'm not going to name names, but I know several people who have either been banned or quit this board and promised to never return, but are still on here under different usernames. Anyways, thank you for hearing me out, I hope you have a good night. By the way, @SportsFan, PC Gridiron wanted me to pass this message along to you: "Hey SportsFan Lake Wales just scored on Columbia again."

I think it’s embarrassing to try and get credit for a kid who lived in Florida for one year of his entire life. That’s cringey and embarrassing

That’s exactly what I’m saying. IMG isn’t even a Florida high school. They are a world sports academy located in Florida. If a Florida native who played for IMG was drafted, Florida would get credit because he is a native.

I like the match. An entire COUNTY against a small little Catholic school. Toss up.

John Carroll Catholic (Fort Pierce) https://twitter.com/JCGoldenRams/status/1781310950861152605

Updated Cocoa Tigers schedule

Leesburg https://x.com/leesburghsfb/status/1775894427116175757

It seems like a lot of turnover at many positions in that school. New coach needs to rent some apartments for players and give some 100 dollar handshakes to make it in today Florida high school football. Oh wait, no one recruits illegally here in Florida... my bad

For example if Class 1 has 20 teams eligible to move up, but class 2 only has 15 teams eligible to move down then all 15 move down, and the 15 teams in class 1 with the highest winning percentage would move up.

You could even bump teams up and down based on winning percentage. After 2 years, teams with a .750 or higher would have to move up a class with the cap still being 125 teams per class. Teams with the highest winning percentage above .750 would move up first and so on. Same with winning percentages of .250 or worse. They would move down with the worst percentages moving down first

If you cut the classes to 4, that’s 125 teams each class. 500 teams. The rest are independent SSAC teams etc. 125 teams divided into 16 districts is 7-8 teams per district. No issue. Travel and scheduling would be easy breezy. Most games would be local and keep the rivalries fresh. Playoffs would be an animal. The districts would be so big, and the classes so small that it would be highly unlikely that a garbage team makes the playoffs. Maybe one here or there but nothing like it is now. Classify by enrollment. Maybe multiply privates by 1.5. Let’s figure it out

"Choosing to break the rules is not a coach philosophy; it's cheating." /s/ Annoyed and retired

Chaminade Madonna Lions 2024 Football Schedule 08-24 St. John Bosco 08-30 Blanche Ely 09-06 American Heritage (Plantation) 09-12 Miami Edison 09-20 Miami Norland 09-27 Western 10-04 Monarch 10-11 St. Thomas Aquinas 10-18 Avant Garde Academy 10-25 Cardinal Gibbons

I doubt they are, Vero just usually pony up’s the $$$ and hosts them, I wouldn’t be surprised if the 4 Brevard County schools are home/away though…

That dude is a joke and this site became a better place when he got banned -sincerely all people with an IQ higher than 10

PC Gridiron. Lol. He’s a jabroni. “Large School Kathleen” as if that means something. They went 1-9 and would have lost to most JV teams in the state.

No doubt they are working to "GET" kids to transfer in as we lost a couple of very good players to them in the last couple of months. The change came when they brought the 1 year HC down from Leesburg where he put them on the map and into the playoffs somehow managing to "GET" players from some of the surrounding schools. No doubt it is happening.

The difference that I see is that colleges and universities can recruit (in fact, they have to in order to be competitive). More importantly, the local car dealership can be loyal to a particular college or university and under new NIL rules, it can pay a student-athlete. As it stands now, that same car dealership can be loyal to a particular high school football team, but as soon as they start providing payments to players, they run afoul of the FHSAA rules prohibiting "impermissible benefits." This whole section would have to be changed: "37.2 IMPERMISSIBLE BENEFIT 37.2.1 General Regulation. No school employee, athletic department staff member, representative of the school’s athletic interests or third parties, such as an independent person, business, or organization, may be involved, directly or indirectly, in giving an impermissible benefit to any student or any member of his/her family for the purpose of participating in interscholastic athletics, or to any student-athlete who already attends a school. 37.2.2 Specific Prohibitions. Specifically prohibited arrangements, assistance or benefits include, but are not limited to, the following: 37.2.2.1 School-based financial assistance of any kind that exceeds the amount for which a student has been approved by an independent financial needs assessment company that is recognized by the FHSAA or otherwise is in excess of any supplemental assistance provided by a school to each and every student who qualifies for financial assistance. 37.2.2.2 Cash or like items, such as credit cards, debit cards, gift cards, gift certificates, coupons, or vouchers. . . .." What's wrong with keeping high school sports purely amateur? Unlike colleges and universities, no one (including/especially the high schools) is really 'profiting' from the name, image or likeness of a high school athletes, are they? My kids played with some pretty high-profile guys, but I don't recall Dick's selling jerseys with their names printed on the back. Are high school football players from Florida going to start fleeing to other states to pick up a few grand? Perhaps a kid from the panhandle or Jacksonville might get pulled north to Georgia or Alabama for a few bucks, but I can't see any south Florida kids making the move north unless the money was huge (like a once-in-a-generation kid). Let NIL screw up the college game, but keep the high school game as pure as possible.

It's possible that they find their stride by week 5, but at the moment we just don't have the on-paper talent to compete with teams like Miami NW, IMG National, Cocoa, or Bishop Verot. If Venice can find a way to go 7-3 with that schedule I would be happy

Just wait till spring is over and the top RB in the area will take his talent to 1 Indian Ave.

Cardinal Mooney

Fun fact. Sebastian River is 2-0 all time against OOS teams. 2000 Sebastian River 40, Aliso Niguel,CA 7 2022 Sebastian River 14, Golden,CO 6

Sebastian River : 8/16 Titusville 8/23 Mount Dora 8/30 Tradition Prep 9/6 Harmony 9/13 @ Jensen Beach (district) 9/20 @ South Fork 9/27 Okeechobee (district) 10/4 Astronaut 10/11 BYE 10/18 John Carroll Catholic (district) 10/25 @ Port St. Lucie (district) 11/1 @ Satellite

What is the feeling on the upcoming season? (I figure I better ask this question NOW, as the answer figures to change in a few days )

Wow so BTW is traveling to both Vero and Lakeland this year that's nuts

The 2024 Florida NFL Draft Tracker is NOW LIVE on FloridaHSFootball.com and the FloridaHSFootball.com App! https://floridahsfootball.com/2024/04/25/2024-florida-nfl-draft-tracker/

The possibility of adding an "open" or "championship" bracket with the 8 highest ranked teams will be discussed at the upcoming FHSAA Board of Directors meeting. The twist here is the proposal includes a double-elimination component. Seems overly complicated to me, although it does open up the possibility for additional revenue from additional games. The item is listed as a "discussion" item (as opposed to an "action" item), but it will be interesting to see where this leads. The entire item can be reviewed here: https://fhsaa.com/documents/2024/4/12/76_78.pdf

Okay, how about that STA vs. Ida Baker matchup in your first round? Does your analogy extend to South Florida slappies? My opinion is simply that no one (except CoachGraham, apparently) would be interested in the 1 vs. 512, 2 vs. 511, and 200 other mismatches such a format would produce, regardless of geography. But I could be wrong. And now I'm thinking I should have skipped college.

As it stands now, a team can afford to lose a game towards the middle-to-end of the regular season and still bounce back and win a state title. The idea of "lose or go home" after Week 5 does not appeal to me at all. Additionally, what do all the teams who lose in Week 6 or 7 do for the rest of the season? Try to find games to play the other teams that got bounced early? Hard to schedule a "home and home" series with another team if you don't know who's going to be in the playoffs for how long both this year and next.

Hardee @Hwy17 https://highschool.athlonsports.com/florida/2024/04/19/florida-high-school-football-hardee-announces-2024-schedule

Cardinal Gibbons

Dang Rockledge might end up like Wellington was last year, Palm Bay gotta decent squad back but like you said they ain't the same, and what about Eau Gallie

As great as an Open division COULD be, it is likely to be very poor given the grotesque incompetence of the ranking systems they've used previously.

Cocoa schedule 2024 SCHEDULE Aug 22 TITUSVILLE Aug 29 @ MAINLAND Sept 06 @ CHAMINADE Sept 13 HERITAGE Sept 20 @ VENICE Sept 27 BYE Oct 04 NORLAND Oct 11 @ APOPKA Oct 18 ASTRONAUT (District) OCT 25 @ VILLAGES (District) NOV 01 ROCKLEDGE https://twitter.com/CocoaFootball/status/1779829975035650113

Their district didn't do them any favors as far as SOS. Those 3 games positioned where they are will help. But I don't understand putting Satellite as week 1. Eau Gallie and Viera are county rivals. But Eau Gallie is having an exodus of players and have a few coming in. Mainland was supposed to be on the schedule but that fell through. Mainland almost had a tour of brevard lol. Schedule is underwhelming but trying to be optimistic. I see them winning their district easily but losing in the 2nd round of the playoffs honestly

Ironic. These days, it's usually the folks from other countries that are being told to 'go back to where they came from.'

Bishop Moore https://twitter.com/HornetFB_1MOORE/status/1776378378968248669

We can look to the college game for ideas on how to work around rules. A little creativity, along with clever use of euphemisms, goes a long way. Businesses like car dealerships have long been free to enter into sponsorship deals with local football programs. The businesses can choose who to sponsor or not. Then, with such an agreement in place, commercials and promotions can be held featuring players from the sponsored program, which can be called an "NIL" deal. Of course there is ample room for debates around the "spirit" vs. "the letter" of the law. You're not wrong; there are just ways around the issues you raise. (None of which are for the betterment of the game.)

Unless and until the FHSAA changes the rules regarding recruiting, I don't see how you can possibly reconcile "allowing NIL deals" with "no recruiting." The only way that I can see it happening is if companies offering NIL deals offer the deals to players at multiple high schools. But, if you've got, let's say, a car dealership in Venice or Lakeland that only offers NIL deals to kids who attend Venice or Lakeland, that constitutes recruiting.

Never mind I just looked his hudl up. He is from Canada, like most of the team was. I do see he has an Auburn offer. If he stays in the U.S. it will be a great "get" for someone.

Ocala Vanguard https://x.com/VanguardFB/status/1772951193179840761?s=20

You missed the point of my union post. Teacher unions in strong union states have power. Florida unions have zero. They cant strike and the school board can implement a contract without the unions approval. Florida unions are not preventing any raise in Florida. The state has attacked a straw man here.

& Theirs talks STA, Chaminade, Northwestern & Centrals schedule is even tougher. Norland is also scheduled to head up to Buford this season.

Teaching and coaching at the high school level is a THANKLESS job. Teachers and coaches have a direct influence on our youth's future. Public servants don"t get paid nearly enough.

Most jobs dont require you to take homework home and grade papers and make lessons and then take classes to recertify and then take classes to try to earn a real wage either by getting a masters. Plus alot of teachers coach and get paid very little for alot of work. A assistant fb coach usually gets around 3k for the following work. Spring ball 20 practices and 5 days for conditioning. 4 days a week lifting in summer, 7 on 7 practices and tournament from Jan -April and then in summer again. Practice from august to mid November unless you make a run and go till December. If teaching is such a great pay gig and easy job then why are 1 in 5 teachers leaving the profession or state to teach somewhere else.