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First, let me congratulate all of the kids that have earned the opportunity to play in state championship games. I see as much talent as ever in today’s game. And I see a lot of dang good HS football players. 

However, I am seeing some of the worst football I’ve ever seen here in the state. Teams are making the state championship game that I truly believe 10 years ago would’ve been 2nd round exit type teams. Penalties seem to be at an all time high, tackling an all time low, and a lack of fundamentals from top to bottom. Basic offensive and defensive schemes. And we simply have too many classifications. 
 

Am I totally off base or am I onto something? If I’m onto something, what do you think could be done to remedy the situation? 

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34 minutes ago, Jags904 said:

First, let me congratulate all of the kids that have earned the opportunity to play in state championship games. I see as much talent as ever in today’s game. And I see a lot of dang good HS football players. 

However, I am seeing some of the worst football I’ve ever seen here in the state. Teams are making the state championship game that I truly believe 10 years ago would’ve been 2nd round exit type teams. Penalties seem to be at an all time high, tackling an all time low, and a lack of fundamentals from top to bottom. Basic offensive and defensive schemes. And we simply have too many classifications. 
 

Am I totally off base or am I onto something? If I’m onto something, what do you think could be done to remedy the situation? 

Yeah you correct, 1a needs changes for real. Blountstown and Baker are trash. 

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8 minutes ago, Jags904 said:

Y’all would’ve made the championship in your rightful class (4A) no doubt in my mind. 

Yes, but this is about good teams getting playing for state. Flushing out the trash.

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9 hours ago, Jesse said:

Yeah you correct, 1a needs changes for real. Blountstown and Baker are trash. 

So is your mom but we don’t talk bad about her. Maybe Baker and Blountstown are what 1A teams should be and Madison should be 3A or 4A 

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39 minutes ago, badbird said:

So is your mom but we don’t talk bad about her. Maybe Baker and Blountstown are what 1A teams should be and Madison should be 3A or 4A 

I am in full agreement with the second sentence. Regarding the first, an errant kid is not always the mom's fault

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52 minutes ago, badbird said:

So is your mom but we don’t talk bad about her. Maybe Baker and Blountstown are what 1A teams should be and Madison should be 3A or 4A 

Shut up Madison been 2a, not that big of a difference. Idiot Baker is not good, you don't watch them play. I do blountstown almost lost to Taylor county, they were 3a for a long time and sucked. They 1a now. Madison just works hard, champions do that in this state idiot. They don't play easy teams and cheat. Stop saying Madison needs to go. Tell teams to up they game. But you crying like a baby, 

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11 hours ago, Jags904 said:

First, let me congratulate all of the kids that have earned the opportunity to play in state championship games. I see as much talent as ever in today’s game. And I see a lot of dang good HS football players. 

However, I am seeing some of the worst football I’ve ever seen here in the state. Teams are making the state championship game that I truly believe 10 years ago would’ve been 2nd round exit type teams. Penalties seem to be at an all time high, tackling an all time low, and a lack of fundamentals from top to bottom. Basic offensive and defensive schemes. And we simply have too many classifications. 
 

Am I totally off base or am I onto something? If I’m onto something, what do you think could be done to remedy the situation? 

There aren't a lot of really good programs and coaches. There is the talent consolidation trend. Some teams aren't coached very well but are loaded in enough talent to beat the other teams with limited talent. Many of the best coaches (see Rick Darlington for example) who are in areas where they see good players being poached away simply leave. 

That said, the appreciation for the basics and fundamentals is eroding all over the place. As is the appreciation of complexity and originality in scheme design. Seems like most everyone runs the exact same schemes. Meh.

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9 minutes ago, Jesse said:

Shut up Madison been 2a, not that big of a difference. Idiot Baker is not good, you don't watch them play. I do blountstown almost lost to Taylor county, they were 3a for a long time and sucked. They 1a now. Madison just works hard, champions do that in this state idiot. They don't play easy teams and cheat. Stop saying Madison needs to go. Tell teams to up they game. But you crying like a baby, 

No I'm not crying at all.   Madison County has a great program and a great man as a head coach.   Lots of good things are done with Madison county football and you are not one of them. You are not a good representation of Madison County.  All you do is try and put teams down.  I'm 100% sure your coach would be embarrassed to be associated with you.  Stop running your mouth about other teams. 

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10 hours ago, Jags904 said:

Y’all would’ve made the championship in your rightful class (4A) no doubt in my mind. 

 I believe Madison has only won championships in 1A maybe 2A, but not sure. I know Cocoa beat them in 2A when it was 1A and B, 2A and B.

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Unfortunately some of the best, most detailed coaches are currently at programs that don't have the athletes to compete for States. Some of the programs you see competing for States don't have the greatest coaches on their staff, they have great recruiters. They bring in enough kids every year to compete at a high level. 

As far as creativity in scheme is concerned...I don't necessarily agree with that. I saw some of everything this playoff season. Spread RPO offenses, power running schemes, Odd front defenses, Even front defenses, Cover-4 schemes, Cover-3 schemes, etc.

Football is a fad sport anyway. Every few years some new scheme becomes hot and everybody wants to run it. We've seen it in college and the NFL. The schemes are even less diverse on those levels than they are on High School.

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