KICKOFF CLASSICS PREDICTIONS

[DILLARDBOYZ954]

Kickoff classics start next week, what are you guys predictions. Let’s get some football convo started round here lol. 

[DarterBlue2]

Apopka versus Osceola will be decided by 7 points or less if the game is exclusively Varsity. I am not going to pick a winner as I feel I may in some ways be biased. 

[DILLARDBOYZ954]

4 minutes ago, DarterBlue2 said:

Apopka versus Osceola will be decided by 7 points or less if the game is exclusively Varsity. I am not going to pick a winner as I feel I may in some ways be biased. 

I’ll keep an eye out for the results of that game for sure. 

[DisabledAccount]

I've yet to confirm it but someone mentioned earlier that Columbia vs Suwannee will be JV first half and varsity second half

 

I'll probably go to the QB club meeting on Monday and find out if that's truly the case but after what I saw from the scrimmage today I want to see how they do against Suwannee to truly know where Columbia stands 

[DILLARDBOYZ954]

9 minutes ago, VeniceIndiansFootball said:

Columbia pounds the snot out of Suwannee

Miami Norland loses to Dillard in a low-scoring affair, I could see Dillard winning big though 

Venice shocks IMG and finally ends their losing streak against the Ascenders

Jones finds a way to make things interesting, but doesn’t have enough horsepower to keep up with The West 

Sarasota defeats Tampa Catholic and proves that they are a program on the rise

 

 

 

Only thing that concerns me about our KOC is that if it’s truly gonna b no kick offs & a running clock all 4 quarters what type of game will that really be. Will our stars play little to none at all. 

[DILLARDBOYZ954]

10 minutes ago, VeniceIndiansFootball said:

Columbia pounds the snot out of Suwannee

Miami Norland loses to Dillard in a low-scoring affair, I could see Dillard winning big though 

Venice shocks IMG and finally ends their losing streak against the Ascenders

Jones finds a way to make things interesting, but doesn’t have enough horsepower to keep up with The West 

Sarasota defeats Tampa Catholic and proves that they are a program on the rise

 

 

 

I got MNW 42-14 over jones. 
 

venice & img is a game where I’m rooting for your Indians. It seem img lost a lot but in the end who really knows.

[DILLARDBOYZ954]

11 minutes ago, VeniceIndiansFootball said:

Columbia pounds the snot out of Suwannee

Miami Norland loses to Dillard in a low-scoring affair, I could see Dillard winning big though 

Venice shocks IMG and finally ends their losing streak against the Ascenders

Jones finds a way to make things interesting, but doesn’t have enough horsepower to keep up with The West 

Sarasota defeats Tampa Catholic and proves that they are a program on the rise

 

 

 

I did I miss something ? When was swuanne ever a team to measure your program against in football? 
 

but again I know nothing about that area so what do I know lol

[DisabledAccount]

12 minutes ago, VeniceIndiansFootball said:

Columbia and Suwannee are bitter rivals. It hasn’t been the rivalry of old in recent years, though. Very one-sided in favor of Columbia. Just a testament to what a good program Columbia have built. Columbia is playing them just for the sake of beating them into the ground and proving they are a threat in 3AS. Going to be painful to watch, LOL

The game is a Kickoff Classic for 2 years with the idea it will get put back on the regular season schedule after that but overall from what I saw today Columbia still has a ways to go before they can be the threat in 3S that they have the potential to be

 

Defense basically squashed offense today in the team scrimmage and with our starting RB down and lacking depth at the position and the OL still showing inconsistent performances after having a good week at practice I need to see more 

 

Suwannee should be a good test to see if they can put it together but the real test will be Buchholz the following week when we can hopefully get some injured players back for 

[DisabledAccount]

11 minutes ago, THIS_IS_DILLARD said:

I did I miss something ? When was swuanne ever a team to measure your program against in football? 
 

but again I know nothing about that area so what do I know lol

Suwannee is a bordering county rival, it would basically be if Dillard and Miami Central played basically every year since the 1940s just with less talent on the field 

 

Suwannee used to "occasionally" beat Columbia but their last win was 2007 and I believe Suwannee has only won 4 times since 1995 but it still means something to the traditionalists in the two communities

 

To me they are just a speed bump to get the season going and see about building chemistry as a team and an opportunity to shut them up after they were running their mouths two years ago that they could have beaten Columbia

[DarterBlue2]

17 minutes ago, THIS_IS_DILLARD said:

I got MNW 42-14 over jones. 
 

venice & img is a game where I’m rooting for your Indians. It seem img lost a lot but in the end who really knows.

Jones will score more than 14. Will they score enough to win? That I don't know. If the West were about at last year's level, Jones would have a real shot. If they are a lot better then we will see ... 

[Jullian]

25 minutes ago, THIS_IS_DILLARD said:

I got MNW 42-14 over jones. 
 

venice & img is a game where I’m rooting for your Indians. It seem img lost a lot but in the end who really knows.

42-14??? That’s a Beatdown. Lot closer than that. 31-21 Bulls. 
Panthers -17 over Norland. 
Apopka over Osceola. Close. 

[DILLARDBOYZ954]

41 minutes ago, VeniceIndiansFootball said:

Columbia and Suwannee are bitter rivals. It hasn’t been the rivalry of old in recent years, though. Very one-sided in favor of Columbia. Just a testament to what a good program Columbia have built. Columbia is playing them just for the sake of beating them into the ground and proving they are a threat in 3AS. Going to be painful to watch, LOL

Lol do y’all thing then 

[DILLARDBOYZ954]

14 minutes ago, Jullian said:

42-14??? That’s a Beatdown. Lot closer than that. 31-21 Bulls. 
Panthers -17 over Norland. 
Apopka over Osceola. Close. 

Lol I think jones score first off the hype of the magnitude of the game and plying at home. Maybe even b 14-14 at the half. But I do see MNW pulling away on the offensive end to win by 17+. 
 

i could be wrong. Stranger things have happen in KOC games before. We will see what homes working with. They’re in 3M to so aye let’s get it. 

[Jullian]

Edgewater vs Seminole.

buchholtz vs Trinity Catholic  

Atlantic vs PBC.

Rockledge vs Treasure Coast

Sum Heavyweight matchups! 

 

[skyway]

It's certainly no Atlantic-PBC, but I'll say either Lakeland-Armwood is called due to lightning, or Lakeland wins 28-0. 

IMG over Venice 49-0, with the game being 42-0 at half.

[Dan in Daytona]

3 hours ago, DarterBlue2 said:

Jones will score more than 14. Will they score enough to win? That I don't know. If the West were about at last year's level, Jones would have a real shot. If they are a lot better then we will see ... 

Concurring with DarterBlue can never be seen as an act of desperation. The man has much common sense to go with unquestioned intelligence . And if the young ColumboFan says Miami public's gather as many transfers as any, who am I to dispute his due diligence and current knowledge pertaining to today's Florida high school football. Having not seen either Jones or MNW in 5yrs or more, all I got are unsubstantiated opinions. Here goes :  Anyone who believes the Bulls of Miami are traveling 231 miles to play a game in the backyard of Jones High and will not do everything possible to win the game, K.O.C. or not, doesn't know today's athlete or inner city head coaches. They can't and won't throttle these kids down. Sure it's early and no one expects playoff level execution, but the effort will be undeniable. 100% balls to the wall. Now for Jones. Does it really need to be said ? Fear who, the Bulls, PLEASE !  You don't think the chip on their shoulder isn't big enough ? The O-Town boys got pride and payback on their minds. Depending on the team's end of year success, this could be a lifetime feel good achievement for many. Dade ain't the only county that plays ball. The numbers may say otherwise, but I got Jones High in a hometown squeaker and in a historic O-town statement game.....Go Tigers      

[Ray Icaza]

15 hours ago, DarterBlue2 said:

Apopka versus Osceola will be decided by 7 points or less if the game is exclusively Varsity. I am not going to pick a winner as I feel I may in some ways be biased. 

Darter, I did read they will be televising tonite at 7pm on Blue Darter Sports Central a preview for the KOC next Friday.  It will include both HC's as well as some APK players with special guest Gary Larson, a terrific player from the mid 70's @ OHS.

[skyway]

3 hours ago, VeniceIndiansFootball said:

This isn’t the IMG of old, it’s going to be a much closer game than that. 

I'd be happy to see that! But, barring an absolutely dramatic infusion of talent (I don't mean a couple of new transfers who will start) from spring, Venice would not be expected to compete with the top several teams in the state. IMG is LOADED. I gather that having some good players (I know of two RBs) transfer out has mislead people to perceive them as being down. But, they have 11 of the top 100 2023 players in Florida, with 3 of the top 5, per Rivals. The 247 lists for 2023 and 2024 show seven (7) five star players and twelve (12) four star players. IMO, they're going to obliterate Venice, and they're going to obliterate Miami Central, too. 

*Now, if these guys listed as at IMG as of this morning don't actually play for them, I suppose I'd have to recalculate

[skyway]

My impression of the Kowboys in 2021 was that they were a bunch of nice, happy young men coached by a nice staff. Really nice guys. Not the type to play with much anger or rage. Apopka doesn't entertain much these days, but they are meticulous and precise. As others have said, this is a toss-up. I'll take Apopka 14-6.

[DarterBlue2]

1 hour ago, Ray Icaza said:

Darter, I did read they will be televising tonite at 7pm on Blue Darter Sports Central a preview for the KOC next Friday.  It will include both HC's as well as some APK players with special guest Gary Larson, a terrific player from the mid 70's @ OHS.

https://theanswerorlando.com/radioshow/blue-darter-sports-central

Above is a link to a BDSC podcast!

[Ray Icaza]

2 hours ago, skyway said:

My impression of the Kowboys in 2021 was that they were a bunch of nice, happy young men coached by a nice staff. Really nice guys. Not the type to play with much anger or rage. Apopka doesn't entertain much these days, but they are meticulous and precise. As others have said, this is a toss-up. I'll take Apopka 14-6.

And watching the game with APK vs Lakeland last year in your place, in my opinion they should have won that game had it not been for questionable calls by the officials in the final drive to give the Naughts the win.  I said so at the time and have not changed my opinion.  Point is '21 season, regardless of your opinion means nothing but you are deciding the fate for both Apopka and Osceola based on that.  Should I assume the same of Lakeland?  Of course not, just wish you had the same objectivity. 

[skyway]

22 minutes ago, Ray Icaza said:

And watching the game with APK vs Lakeland last year in your place, in my opinion they should have won that game had it not been for questionable calls by the officials in the final drive to give the Naughts the win.  I said so at the time and have not changed my opinion.  Point is '21 season, regardless of your opinion means nothing but you are deciding the fate for both Apopka and Osceola based on that.  Should I assume the same of Lakeland?  Of course not, just wish you had the same objectivity. 

No, I'm not assuming 2022 will be a repeat of 2021. I think your memory is a bit hazy on that Apopka-Lakeland game and final drive. But, 'twas a very tight game for sure.

For 2022, I'm guessing Osceola will continue to have limitations on offense. They'll be good, but not great, on offense. Apopka holds such offenses to low point totals. Osceola will be very stout on defense, while Apopka will also be limited on offense. I think Osceola will call a less conservative game offensively, which may produce a big mistake/turnover that leads to an easy score for the Darters. We also have to keep in mind that there is an excellent chance of the game being called due to lightning, or played in a monsoon. Monsoonal conditions favor the more conservative, run-oriented offense. 

[skyway]

Personally, I think it's more fun if we all make bolder predictions! Haha. I know you guys hope like hell I'm proven wrong 

[Ray Icaza]

23 minutes ago, skyway said:

No, I'm not assuming 2022 will be a repeat of 2021. I think your memory is a bit hazy on that Apopka-Lakeland game and final drive. But, 'twas a very tight game for sure.

For 2022, I'm guessing Osceola will continue to have limitations on offense. They'll be good, but not great, on offense. Apopka holds such offenses to low point totals. Osceola will be very stout on defense, while Apopka will also be limited on offense. I think Osceola will call a less conservative game offensively, which may produce a big mistake/turnover that leads to an easy score for the Darters. We also have to keep in mind that there is an excellent chance of the game being called due to lightning, or played in a monsoon. Monsoonal conditions favor the more conservative, run-oriented offense. 

I am old but my memory doesn't fail me.  It was a clear holding call right in front of the ref, then a takedown and when the APK player got up to object they penalized him; instead of 10 yards against Lakeland it was 15 against APK.  It's on film and clearly easy to see.  In addition, you are clearly ignorant about our offense this year yet you are much better versed than I although I don't recall seeing you at any practices.   Lastly, I am not offended by your bold predictions or looking to prove you wrong.  Just curious why when you have a world beater team, you would not challenge them but instead have a mediocre schedule.  Other than Clearwater Academy, us and a diminished Lake Gibson????  HMMMM.

[muckboy561]

Do we still have to buy tickets online to go to the games this season?