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gwdrum75 All-State 2nd Team

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I fully understand the reasoning for having the state championship games at a neutral site. But this is where I miss the games being at different locations that can keep the game in the evening. Not a fan of mid-day high school games.

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Isn't that what Daytona wanted to do first. If so the process is shady.

 

The FHSAA has stated from the beginning that they were really interested in doing a single weekend of games before they even accepted bids. 

 

Orlando had agreed to do two weeks in 2016, and one weekend in both 2017 and 2018. However, with the ACC moving its conference championship from Charlotte to Orlando this season, the FHSAA had to move to one weekend this season as well. 

 

The process is not shady. Orlando and Daytona were the only ones to bid and Daytona made outrageous demands that the FHSAA simply was not going to meet because the demands were silly, unnecessary and disrespectful.

 

If any group of people is shady, I would perhaps argue that whoever was representing the City of Daytona is the shady group in this ordeal. 

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The FHSAA has stated from the beginning that they were really interested in doing a single weekend of games before they even accepted bids.

 

Orlando had agreed to do two weeks in 2016, and one weekend in both 2017 and 2018. However, with the ACC moving its conference championship from Charlotte to Orlando this season, the FHSAA had to move to one weekend this season as well.

 

The process is not shady. Orlando and Daytona were the only ones to bid and Daytona made outrageous demands that the FHSAA simply was not going to meet because the demands were silly, unnecessary and disrespectful.

 

If any group of people is shady, I would perhaps argue that whoever was representing the City of Daytona is the shady group in this ordeal.

What were their demands?

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For those who were at the track & field championships this year - one day event at IMG - we know how AWFUL this will be.  You will be run into the stadium & run out, like on an assembly line.  The T&F meet was just terrible....congrats kid, now get out of the way, we have another race to run.  Officials screaming at these athletes (who earned the right to shine in a state competition) to hurry up, etc.

 

Earning the right to play for a state championship will be seriously cheapened by the practice of this idea.

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What were their demands?

 

I'm not going to get into specifics, because I don't think the specific demands are meant to be, or are, publicly known at this time. 

 

However, I will say that had Daytona mentioned any of these in the bidding process, they would not have won the bid. And I'm sure they knew that as well and timed when they told the FHSAA of what they wanted so that the FHSAA was informed about it after awarding Daytona the bid. 

 

Daytona was given a great opportunity, but because of poor decision making -- and perhaps even other "shady" motives -- they lost the opportunity. 

 

Orlando will host states for 2016-2018 and then the series will likely go up for bidding again. Orlando and Boca Raton (FAU) will almost certainly be the two finalists in 2019. 

peezy28 National Prospect

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The FHSAA has stated from the beginning that they were really interested in doing a single weekend of games before they even accepted bids. 

 

Orlando had agreed to do two weeks in 2016, and one weekend in both 2017 and 2018. However, with the ACC moving its conference championship from Charlotte to Orlando this season, the FHSAA had to move to one weekend this season as well. 

 

The process is not shady. Orlando and Daytona were the only ones to bid and Daytona made outrageous demands that the FHSAA simply was not going to meet because the demands were silly, unnecessary and disrespectful.

 

If any group of people is shady, I would perhaps argue that whoever was representing the City of Daytona is the shady group in this ordeal. 

 

I am curious as to what those demands were too.  LIke did they require nightly allowances for all officials to Biggins or Lollipops?

 

For those who were at the track & field championships this year - one day event at IMG - we know how AWFUL this will be.  You will be run into the stadium & run out, like on an assembly line.  The T&F meet was just terrible....congrats kid, now get out of the way, we have another race to run.  Officials screaming at these athletes (who earned the right to shine in a state competition) to hurry up, etc.

 

Earning the right to play for a state championship will be seriously cheapened by the practice of this idea.

 

Wait did they run all classes on the same day?  that makes absolutely no sense. 

Captain Morgan Varsity Starter

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The way the finals were before is hurry up and get out of the way. They allow you in 2hours before kickoff, only allow you a certain amount of time to warm up then after the game it's hurry up and get out of here. And that is even if you are the last game.

Joshua Wilson College Back Up

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For those who were at the track & field championships this year - one day event at IMG - we know how AWFUL this will be.  You will be run into the stadium & run out, like on an assembly line.  The T&F meet was just terrible....congrats kid, now get out of the way, we have another race to run.  Officials screaming at these athletes (who earned the right to shine in a state competition) to hurry up, etc.

 

Earning the right to play for a state championship will be seriously cheapened by the practice of this idea.

 

Huffy -  I know where you are coming from on this, but comparing T&F to football is not really a good apples to apple comparison for this situation. 

 

When the FHSAA put the RFP out for bids, it included details of how the times would work over a three-day span, something we were going to get anyways in 2017 and 2018, but we are getting it a year sooner.

 

Thursday

3:00 pm

7:30 pm 

 

Friday

11:00 am

3:00 pm

7:30 pm

 

Saturday

11:00 am

3:00 pm

7:30 pm

 

I could possibly see them adjust this to where the morning game is a 10:00 am start and the night game on each night be an 8:00 pm game, but we are likely to see these times. 

 

Also, I want to show you all what are neighbors do as well...what the FHSAA is doing is not far-fetched at all.

 

Georgia (GHSA)

 

8 state championship games over two days (Dec. 9-10)

 

Schedule as follows

 

Friday

10:00 am

1:00 pm

4:30 pm

8:00 pm

 

Saturday

10:00 am

1:00 pm

4:30 pm

8:00 pm

 

Alabama (AHSAA)

 

7 games over three days (Nov. 30-Dec 2.)

 

Wednesday

1 game, plus 1 unified sports game

3:30 pm (unified)

7:00 pm

 

Thursday

3 games

11:00 am

3:00 pm

7:00 pm

Friday

3 games

11:00 am

3:00 pm

7:00 pm

 

To be fair after looking at this the FHSAA is giving extra time already built into this for our teams.

 

Want to go one better? Let's look at Texas

 

12 games over 4 days (Dec 14-Dec 18)

 

Wednesday

4:00 pm

7:00 pm

 

Thursday

10:00 am

1:00 pm

5:00 pm

8:00 pm

 

Friday

12:00 pm

4:00 pm

8:00 pm

 

Saturday

12:00 pm

4:00 pm

8:00 pm

 

So before anyone else complains, look at our neighboring states and look at what Texas does as well. It not far fetched. We are actually getting in line with the rest of the powers in how things are done and should be done.

 

For fans, this should be welcomed, instead of having to drive up two separate weekends to see Booker T. Washington and Miami Central play, you might actually get to see them play on the same weekend now and possibly in back to back games...talk about a fan's dream? Yes, it could happen.

Cocoa2010 Varsity Starter

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The FHSAA has stated from the beginning that they were really interested in doing a single weekend of games before they even accepted bids. 

 

Orlando had agreed to do two weeks in 2016, and one weekend in both 2017 and 2018. However, with the ACC moving its conference championship from Charlotte to Orlando this season, the FHSAA had to move to one weekend this season as well. 

 

The process is not shady. Orlando and Daytona were the only ones to bid and Daytona made outrageous demands that the FHSAA simply was not going to meet because the demands were silly, unnecessary and disrespectful.

 

If any group of people is shady, I would perhaps argue that whoever was representing the City of Daytona is the shady group in this ordeal. 

Was UCF not allowed to bid because the Citrus Bowl did? Would think UCF would jump all over this.

Cocoa2010 Varsity Starter

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Your wrong about 1A, 1A class will more than triple 2A  and have more fans than 3A and 4A . The 1A game needs to be a Friday night game 

1A 5 Year Average: 2588

2A 5 Year Average: 1375

3A 5 Year Average: 2016

4A 5 Year Average: 2544

 

Your estimations are slightly off. But the attendance also greatly depends on where the schools playing are from. For example, look when Cocoa made the 4A Championship(3A in 2008, 2A in 2009-2010) the attendances were 3333, 6899, and 7013; the last 2 being the 2nd most out of all the games each year.

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