*Lack Of Full 2024 Schedules On Maxpreps*

[DILLARDBOYZ954]

At This Point Bro it seems as if every year we have the same conversation in regards to the piss poor job Florida does with the release & adequate posting of the schedules. 
 

you look on maxpreps and there are a alarming amount of schools with less then 4 games posted, some opponents are posted more then once just different dates for the same school. 
 

and what’s crazy is the fact that this year rankings & seedings is going to in the hands of maxpreps, but yet here we are less then 6 weeks away from the 2024 season & more then half the state don’t even have a full slate of games posted. 
 

At this point is it maxpreps dropping the ball year and year out ? Or is this falling on the head coaches of each school & the athletic director ?

[Perspective]

But yet MaxPreps can put out a power ranking now?   Makes no sense. 

[PinellasFB]

Aren't the maxpreps schedules actually posted and managed by the team's themselves?  

[Longtime Observer]

Schools are struggling to fill their schedules ahead of the end of the school year. Then summer break hits and folks are away, not updating documents etc.

The always changing structure of playoff systems also means schools constantly have to reconsider how/who to schedule. Long-term alliances in scheduling aren't tenable, so each cycle amounts to almost starting from scratch.

I imagine there's a deadline sometime in late July or early August where everything has to be in. But, before then, there is no incentive to update maxpreps until summer break is over.

[Dr. D]

To answer the original question, each school should have a Coach Admin account on the MaxPreps website where the coach/AD/assistant coach or whoever can enter the team's schedule.  MaxPreps also says you can email your schedule and they will enter it for you.  So it appears the onus is on the school itself to submit its schedule to MaxPreps, and there are reasons that may not happen promptly, as has been pointed out.  Other errors I have seen are confusing Booker T. Washington in Miami with Booker T. Washington in Pensacola, and Pace with Monsignor Pace, etc.  I saw one score that was reported as 61-0, when in fact it was 29-0, and was never corrected during the year.  Although things tend to get smoothed out with the schedule entry, there is still room for administrative errors, and we are basing the playoff structure on this system?  Sheesh!

[DILLARDBOYZ954]

6 hours ago, PinellasFB said:

Aren't the maxpreps schedules actually posted and managed by the team's themselves?  

That’s what I thought.

[DILLARDBOYZ954]

5 hours ago, Longtime Observer said:

Schools are struggling to fill their schedules ahead of the end of the school year. Then summer break hits and folks are away, not updating documents etc.

The always changing structure of playoff systems also means schools constantly have to reconsider how/who to schedule. Long-term alliances in scheduling aren't tenable, so each cycle amounts to almost starting from scratch.

I imagine there's a deadline sometime in late July or early August where everything has to be in. But, before then, there is no incentive to update maxpreps until summer break is over.

Facts. But to my understanding you can access maxpreps from home to make or add changes from home. 
 

why is that a state like GA can have each team entire accurate schedule ready to go all ready to go at the same time , months b4 kick off. But with Florida you dam near don’t know anything for sure until sometimes the week of kickoffs. 
 

which leaves no room for alum to put in adequate time off request to attend certain games such as homecoming , a huge rival bowl game. Especially if they’re no longer local and live out of state. 

[Longtime Observer]

51 minutes ago, THIS_IS_DILLARD said:

Facts. But to my understanding you can access maxpreps from home to make or add changes from home. 
 

why is that a state like GA can have each team entire accurate schedule ready to go all ready to go at the same time , months b4 kick off. But with Florida you dam near don’t know anything for sure until sometimes the week of kickoffs. 
 

which leaves no room for alum to put in adequate time off request to attend certain games such as homecoming , a huge rival bowl game. Especially if they’re no longer local and live out of state. 

When they're paying what Georgia pays, you get better products and services. When you offer the bare minimum, you get the bare minimum effort in return.

[Dr. D]

I have been thinking about this last post and want to offer a different slant.  For background, remember that the FHSAA had a 5-year agreement with MaxPreps from 2018-2022 which paid the FHSAA $85,000 annually to allow MaxPreps to serve as the exclusive provider for scores and statistics to the FHSAA.  I assume this contract has been renewed, and I'm guessing the details are hidden somewhere in the FHSAA financial archives, but I have been unable to unearth it at this time.  My point is MaxPreps could very well be paying the FHSAA to serve as its official platform, and not vice versa.  Why would MaxPreps do that? to drive online visits to its website and social media platforms, in order to sell more goods and services via its advertisers, and the advertising income that follows from that.  They also need the FHSAA to mandate that all scores be entered into MaxPreps, so its proprietary algorithm can be more "accurate".  I would consider this possible scenario when we are speculating on the motives of the FHSAA and MaxPreps.  Just my two cents. 

[DILLARDBOYZ954]

56 minutes ago, Dr. D said:

I have been thinking about this last post and want to offer a different slant.  For background, remember that the FHSAA had a 5-year agreement with MaxPreps from 2018-2022 which paid the FHSAA $85,000 annually to allow MaxPreps to serve as the exclusive provider for scores and statistics to the FHSAA.  I assume this contract has been renewed, and I'm guessing the details are hidden somewhere in the FHSAA financial archives, but I have been unable to unearth it at this time.  My point is MaxPreps could very well be paying the FHSAA to serve as its official platform, and not vice versa.  Why would MaxPreps do that? to drive online visits to its website and social media platforms, in order to sell more goods and services via its advertisers, and the advertising income that follows from that.  They also need the FHSAA to mandate that all scores be entered into MaxPreps, so its proprietary algorithm can be more "accurate".  I would consider this possible scenario when we are speculating on the motives of the FHSAA and MaxPreps.  Just my two cents. 

Something to most definitely think about. It’s just insane to me that in 2024 3-4 weeks b4 kick off , every high school complete schedule isn’t posted.

What’s even crazier is that most head coaches/ AD’s already know and have the full schedule. For some reason in Florida they just wait the last minute to post. 
 

unless you’re STA, Chaminade or American heritage.

[Nulli Secundus]

I said this years ago and I'll say it again.  NO EXCUSE!!!  The FHSAA could've contracted this out.  Hell, they could've given a UF CompSci student an internship/co-op to create a simple database already linked to the FHSAA portal in which schools can enter and confirm schedules, FOR ALL SPORTS.  

All schools reside in a database and can be parsed by year, then sport (ie, football, boys basketball, girls basketball, etc). If school A is going to play school C, school A enters their information and school C does the same.  If the information doesn't match in the system (non matching opponents, dates, time, home/away or whatever), that game is flagged for correction.  Compliance is not optional.  This is freshman year "intro to programming" and I know because I did this stuff back in 1994.  It pisses me off the the nth degree that such a talent rich State of Florida has such mediocre resources.  There's no reason why we have to wait on an external resource (MaxPreps) to post inaccurate and incomplete information.  There's no reason that this site (Thank you for everything @Joshua Wilson), @nolebull813, @THIS_IS_DILLARD or anyone else should have to look under rocks to find complete schedules.

How does the FHSAA course correct?

[Dr. D]

I barely passed my intro to computer science course, but anyone who has led an organization knows that you have to establish expectations and develop consequences for failure to meet those expectations.  Schedules have to be input by 45 days (or whatever) from opening day.  Failure to do so results in the offending school being fined $1,000 or $5,000 or whatever (money talks, right Nulli?), or the school cannot take part in the playoffs, or cannot host a home game in the playoffs, or whatever punishment would overcome laziness or ineptitude.

(A related issue is the fact that schools have to find 7-8 non-district games because of the Mickey Mouse 2-, 3-, and 4-team districts.  Georgia was previously cited as an example, but they have much larger districts than Florida, so it is much less of a struggle to put together a 10-game schedule.  Hence, their schedules are ready to go and published well in advance.  Yet another argument for large districts.)

[Nulli Secundus]

42 minutes ago, Dr. D said:

I barely passed my intro to computer science course, but anyone who has led an organization knows that you have to establish expectations and develop consequences for failure to meet those expectations.  Schedules have to be input by 45 days (or whatever) from opening day.  Failure to do so results in the offending school being fined $1,000 or $5,000 or whatever (money talks, right Nulli?), or the school cannot take part in the playoffs, or cannot host a home game in the playoffs, or whatever punishment would overcome laziness or ineptitude.

(A related issue is the fact that schools have to find 7-8 non-district games because of the Mickey Mouse 2-, 3-, and 4-team districts.  Georgia was previously cited as an example, but they have much larger districts than Florida, so it is much less of a struggle to put together a 10-game schedule.  Hence, their schedules are ready to go and published well in advance.  Yet another argument for large districts.)

You got it with the fines. 

Larger districts means a reduction in classes and/or district consolidation.  Makes sense so it won't happen. 

[Sthatch11]

59 minutes ago, Dr. D said:

I barely passed my intro to computer science course, but anyone who has led an organization knows that you have to establish expectations and develop consequences for failure to meet those expectations.  Schedules have to be input by 45 days (or whatever) from opening day.  Failure to do so results in the offending school being fined $1,000 or $5,000 or whatever (money talks, right Nulli?), or the school cannot take part in the playoffs, or cannot host a home game in the playoffs, or whatever punishment would overcome laziness or ineptitude.

(A related issue is the fact that schools have to find 7-8 non-district games because of the Mickey Mouse 2-, 3-, and 4-team districts.  Georgia was previously cited as an example, but they have much larger districts than Florida, so it is much less of a struggle to put together a 10-game schedule.  Hence, their schedules are ready to go and published well in advance.  Yet another argument for large districts.)

Three team districts are almost as bad as these pop up ads   I can’t even make it through one post.   

[Joshua Wilson]

I am working on compiling schedules as we speak. I am using multiple resources (everything from Team Twitter accounts to even Hudl -- believe it or not I am finding full schedules there). I have some help in getting them compiled in to a master spreadsheet. I hope to get these posted quickly as possible.