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  1. Congrats Vero Beach I mean Dillard
    9 points
  2. No! You Continue To Cover Your School, it’s Not About Who Stays Or Who Goes iF You Bleed purple, White & I think Gold if I’m not mistaking then You Bleed Your School pride Regardless Of The Fact. I Have Never Stopped Rooting For Dillard, Covering Them or Going To The Games. And we’ve had a lot of bad seasons, every year or every other year coaching changes & Through it All I’ve Still Bled Blue & Gray. for decades we Couldn’t keep players home, Now Not only Do we keep them for the most part, other kids from other schools want to come in and be apart of our program.. for decades we couldn’t keep a coach & within the last 3 years we have had two of the best coaches 1, of them my friend who suddenly passed away in 2020 after going undefeated and getting coach of the year in his first year. we went from being a laughing stock and disrespected to now being a top 10 school in all of south Florida, we’re on a 24 game win streak, we won the first Annual tri county championship & were coming back even better this year. point is @ColumbiaHighFan2017class regardless of how bleak it seems now, regardless of how frustrated you may be with the front office now, you don’t jump ship you hold it down and be the face of Columbia high school.
    9 points
  3. Biship Sycamore will play your JV team on Thursday night and stick around and play your varsity team on Friday night if you promise them that the game will be live-streamed.
    8 points
  4. This is a tragedy. The state of Florida has the best talent in America, but the coaches are paid like shit, and the state association is incompetent in showcasing their student athletes. Such a waste. Like a smoking hot chick wearing Amish gear. Lol
    7 points
  5. Lee. And the Jacksonville newspapers won't report it.
    7 points
  6. 561_Fan

    Did Madison Co.????

    Where’s Jesse.....I know the GREAT Madison Co. didn’t lose to Hawthorne, a 1A school????
    7 points
  7. For what it's worth, I take a look below on the two classes I consider most competitive at this stage of the playoffs: Class 8A: The four teams left are: Apopka, Osceola, Palmetto and Seminole. Due to Broward and Palm Beach county schools not being able to participate and only one significant Dade County school choosing to participate, the Orlando area has benefitted greatly this year and will, by default, have at least one team in the finals. Seminole at Apopka: This game will be the last opportunity for Touchdown Timmy to beat the Darters. He played youth football with many of the kids on this Apopka team and I am sure he would like to have the upper hand this time. He led Seminole teams that lost to Apopka in the playoffs during his freshman and junior years at Seminole. As of this minute, I favor Seminole to win and Timmy to get a measure of revenge. The Seminole team is as physical and athletic as Apopka and is more balanced. For Apopka to win, it will either have to replicate last year's regional finals performance when it was the defense and special teams that put the offense in a good position to score, or APK's coaching staff will have to pull another rabbit out of the hat similar to what it was able to do against Winter Park. Despite the Seminole offense being likely the best Apopka has faced this year, I don't think it will score more than 17 points. However, if the Apopka team that played West Orange and Lake Mary shows up, the 17 points will be enough and Seminole will move on to the finals. I am rooting for Apopka, but believe Seminole will likely win this game in a fairly tight match. Osceola at Miami Palmetto: I believe most will expect Palmetto to win this game. However, I believe Osceola has a legitimate shot at this game. The biggest blotch on Osceola's record is its loss to Vero Beach. It is not losing to VB, there is no shame in that, as VB is a very good team. No, it was the margin of victory. At the half, VB led Osceola 13-7 in what had been a very tight game to that point. In the second half, Osceola fell apart. Having watched the video of this game carefully, I believe that the biggest factor in this game was the fact Osceola's QB was likely injured in the second half. Why do I think this? On its first possession to begin the second half, Osceola used the backup QB. No disrespect to this kid, he may eventually turn into a great QB for all I know. However, it was obvious that he was either not game ready or was overawed by the circumstances. This resulted in an interception that ultimately led to VB scoring points. Though the starting QB came back the next offensive series, he was largely used as a game manager, handing off the ball thereafter. Given the tools he has I can only surmise he was injured and, therefore, the ending score was not reflective of the relative merits of both teams. No, I am not saying Osceola would have come back to win the game. I am saying that the final score would have been respectable. While I favor Palmetto to win with Osceola travelling to Dade, if Osceola can replicate its performance against Edgewater, it has a live chance of winning and I would not be surprised if it did. Forecast for the finals: If we get a Palmetto versus Seminole final, I am picking the Seminoles to win by 14. Why? While I have a lot of respect for Palmetto's defense, I think Seminole will score 24 points (yes I have more respect for the Darter's defense than Palmetto's despite the stars and all)). I don't see Palmetto scoring more than 10 to 13 points on Seminole unless over the next two games they substantially refine their offense. Class 7A: Selecting this class as being very competitive may come as a surprise to many given the fact that the vaunted St. Thomas Aquinas is still alive and in the hunt. Why, then, do I see it as being very competitive? The answer lies in the video of the Aquinas vs Venice game. In it, I saw a team with great special teams, very good offensive and defensive lines. But I also saw a team that had good but not great players at the skill positions, and one that had vulnerabilities on defense. For that reason, I don't see smooth sailing for Aquinas. No, I am still making them the favorite to win it all. But they are going to have to work hard for it, and I would not be the least bit surprised if they lose to one of the two teams they will have to face. St. Thomas Aquinas at Bloomingdale: If Bloomingdale comes to play and executes flawlessly, I think they can beat St. Thomas at their place. What will it take to win? Flawless execution with minimal, if any mistakes. In looking at the regional finals video Bloomingdale was able to overcome and beat a team that was slightly more athletic by executing where it mattered. If their kicker can find a way to make St. Thomas march 80 yards on each of its offensive series that would help a lot. Giving them the ball at the 35 or 40 as they did in the Tampa Bay Tech game, is not a good strategy against Aquinas. With that said, I am going to go out on a limb and pick Bloomingdale to pull the upset in front of delirious home fans and win by 3. I was very impressed with the way the team handled red zone situations, particularly going for two, and in particular, the winning touchdown out of a "swinging gate" formation. Perhaps I am biased because I saw shades of Rick Darlington in some of the calls. Edgewater at Niceville: Despite the more than 7 hour trip, I am going to pick the Eagles from Orlando to beat the Eagles from the Pandhandle. Why? There are two reasons: First, Edgewater is taking this game very seriously and is actually traveling to Niceville on Thursday. In the past, they have tended to drive up the day of big games, and I think it has cost them. The second reason is the matchup. The Edgewater Eagles football team is a very athletic, experienced one. In the skill positions, the only significant loss from last year's finals was I. Connelly who was a very, very good weapon for them at running back. With that said, his replacement, as well as his younger brother, should be good enough to pick up significant yards against Niceville. Having watched Niceville's game against the Bobcats from Gainesville on tape, this Niceville teams reminds me of last year's team, or for that matter the first Niceville team that lost to Dwyer. It is fundamentally sound with a couple good to great athletes, and a number of good to very good high school players. Edgewater, on the other hand, has legitimate talent at the skill positions on both sides of the football. For that reason, if they can eliminate some of the raggedness that has dogged them this year (probably due at least in part to the impact Covid-19 has had on its schedule), then I expect that, to a lesser degree, it will overwhelm Niceville in similar fashion to how Apopka overwhelmed Steinbrenner in the 8A semifinals last year. Too many weapons are hard to overcome if they are firing on all cylinders. Forecast for the finals: If it ends up being Edgewater versus Bloomingdale as I expect, I am hard pressed to pick a winner. Suffice it to say, that I think it will be an intriguing matchup and should be well worth the price of admission. I am pulling for Edgewater to finally hoist a trophy, but they need to overcome the finals jinx. I think the winner will be by less than a touchdown.
    7 points
  8. Hey, just wanted everyone on here to know, that my brother Coach George Zaleuke who coaches at Vero Beach and posts on here as @Ric Flairpassed away Friday night due to complications from covid. He coached in this area for over 35 years at all levels and at all three Indian River county high schools. He was super proud to be a part of the Vero Beach program, and he enjoyed the football discussions on here as well. Hopefully I can confirm for him that despite him not being out there, Vero Beach did in fact line up correctly Friday night…
    6 points
  9. LAZ

    Where is Joe Pinkos?

    Thanks for the plug Darter. Well, I certainly hope everything is well with Joe Pinkos. He is an icon who's tremendous forecasting accuracy and results ability is amazing. And I believe he does it "manually!" As Darter states, I do rankings and game forecasts for all the schools. I've been doing this for Florida high schools since 1999. Joe has been around a lot longer than that. And we all look forward to his picks every single week, including myself (Yes, I like to compare). If you want to look at my weekly forecasts, they are on my site. Accuracy of the computer lags behind Joe for a few weeks and usually runs in the mid 70's until about week 4 when the 80% range is achieved. Another site that ranks every high school team in the nation and forecasts every high school game in the nation is run by Kenneth Massey. Get back soon Joe.
    6 points
  10. 6 points
  11. I keep forgetting Lee changed their name. I'm like damn, who in the hell is this Riverside team?
    6 points
  12. Obviously Venice is extremely good and they are priming themselves for a championship type season as they scheduled Edgewater, then Cocoa to follow up their opener. Will know alot early.
    6 points
  13. Some of this is true; some is not. Allow me to provide some context (WARNING: Long Post alert): Prior to the 2019 season, Plant had a 14-year span (from 2005 to 2018) in which they won four state championships, never won less than 9 games (and won ten or more games 12 times), and went 58-0 in district games. Yep, 58 wins and zero losses. 2019 broke several streaks, including their district winning streak, their playoff streak and their season winning record streak. They finished the season 4-6. Plant's six losses came against their first six opponents: (1) Armwood, who finished the season 12-2 (only losses were a 2OT loss to North Gwinnett (GA) and a 4th round playoff loss to Edgewater); (2) Gaither, who also finished 12-2 (only losses were to Armwood in the regular season and a 4th round playoff loss on the road against Escambia); (3) Steinbrenner, another team that finished 12-2 (4th round playoff loss to Apopka); (4) Bloomingdale, who finished 9-3 (only losses were to Lakeland and Armwood, once in the regular season and again in the playoffs); (5)Tampa Bay Tech, who finished 8-4 (with losses to Armwood, Gaither, Bloomingdale and Lakeland in the playoffs); and (6) Gonzaga (MD) (nationally ranked at the time, but finished their season 8-3). If you take away the out-of-state schools and losses to each other, this group of teams had a combined record of 53-6 in 2019. Plant finished the 2019 season with four straight wins, including three district wins, to finish second in the district. In those four wins, Plant outscored their opponents by a combined 164-20. In any one of the prior 15 plus years (when Plant won their district), their runner-up district status would have gained them a playoff spot. However, 2019 was the first year that the FHSAA relied on a power rankings point system to determine the four non-district winner playoff spots and Plant lost out on the final playoff spot by the narrowest of margins when Steinbrenner lost their season finale to Chamberlain 26-20 (thus, slightly lowering Plant's "opponents record"). To my knowledge, they were the only team in the state not to win a state championship, but nevertheless finish their season with four straight wins. In all likelihood, they wouldn't have made a lot of noise in the playoffs, but they did have some momentum and had figured out how to play to their strengths. They would not have been an easy win for any team at that point. Head coach Robert Weiner did serve a three-game suspension in the middle of the 2019 season for an alleged FHSAA rules violation. He was accused with providing benefits to a player when he asked his director of operations to see if she could help a kid who was new to the football program, but nevertheless registered at Plant, find a place to spend the night when it became apparent late one afternoon that the kid was otherwise not going to have anywhere to sleep that night. Ultimately, through the FHSAA appeals process, the "conviction" was overturned, the fine was rescinded and Coach Weiner's clean record was restored. However, unlike professional sports (where you can continue to play or manage while an appeal is pending), Coach Weiner was forced to serve his 3-game suspension before the appeal could be heard. When your head coach is also your offensive coordinator/QB coach and play-caller, this can be a problem. In short, Plant lost to six quality opponents, but finished the year strong, just missing out on the final playoff spot in the region. PinellasFB is correct that Plant's offensive line was not on par with previous seasons, in part because of early-season injuries and lack of depth. After the season ended, Coach Weiner accepted a college coaching job with the University of Toledo. Plant's QB signed with Georgia Tech (but has since transferred to Toledo). The Plant administration went through a laborious process to find a new head coach. In an effort to do everything the right way, and perhaps not understanding the new wild, wild west of high school football, the school took its time accepting applications, interviewing prospective candidates, narrowing down the field, etc. They eventually settled on a man who had played and coached at the college level and who had previously been the Plant JV coach. In hindsight, it was not the right hire. However, in both Plant's defense and the coach's defense, no one could have anticipated the chain of events that would transpire for this person, professionally and personally. In the meantime, after Coach Weiner announced his departure and before the new coach could be named, a number of Plant's top players, unsure of what the future would bring, decided to do the 'Hallendale Bail,' two years before Hallendale did it. Some did it on their own; others were, to use polite terms, 'encouraged' by 'representatives of other school's athletic interests' to transfer. Area coaches smelled blood in the water and used every opportunity and resource they could to reach out to top Plant players and their parents. Before the school year ended, Plant lost at least eight players who had played significant time in the 2019 season and/or who were expected to contribute significantly the following season, including two top receivers, the expected QB1 and the expected QB2, a starting RB/LB, a starting DB and two OL/DL starters. At the time, four of them had D1 offers and another has since picked up at least one D1 offer. 2020 was a disastrous year for Plant. First year without their old head coach, first year with a new coach who was not on campus, Covid restrictions, no returning varsity QB (and very little chance for anyone to earn the spot with limited 7 on 7 games/tournaments), etc. There were a number of additional factors that led to the downfall, but a lack of incoming new talent over the past couple of years definitely was a major contributor. Plant finished 2-6 last season, but did make the playoffs (yeah, only because every team 'made the playoffs.' ). Once again, Plant has a new head coach: former assistant coach Hank Brown. Coach Brown will surround himself with others that have been around the program in hopes of restoring its glory days. It won't surprise me if Plant has a better record this year than last, but in large part, that will be because of the way that Hillsborough County does its scheduling. For non-district games, Plant won't be playing the 'top tier' teams like Armwood, Gaither, Steinbrenner and Bloomingdale. But, they'll still have a number of tough games and will be lucky to finish the season with a .500 record. In short, Plant's success cycle likely is over, at least for a while. So, in short answer to the original question, Plant will not be a factor this season (or anytime soon) in the playoffs. It's possible they could make the playoffs and it's possible they could win their first playoff game, but that's as far as I see them going unless and until more talent shows up. Oh, and here's the catch: Plant is an A-rated school that has been over-capacity for years. So, unlike some of the other 'football-oriented schools' in the county (or across the state), a kid cannot choose to attend Plant unless they live in the Plant district. That will make it even harder to regain their status as one of the top programs in the county, if not the state. But, it was a helluva run while it lasted.
    6 points
  14. I'm going on 81. When I went to school for the most part everybody was well educated equally. The schools were disciplined and the parents backed the schools 100%. The teachers were qualified and dedicated. They usually stayed at one school their entire career. If any student failed a subject they were mocked by the other students until they came up to par. It was an embarrassment to get a failing mark in any subject. These days, not only are the schools not teaching effectively there is absolutely no discipline and the parents, if you can find them, could care less. I know first hand that most minority students are not being educated in the public school systems. I'm sorry to say this but they are not being taught any of the basic subjects so that they can effectively matriculate in society. The reasoning behind doing poorly in high school and college, if they are lucky enough to get in, is that they are not being forced to learn in elementary schools. Without strong elementary learning there is little chance of success in high school and further on. I feel so damn bad and am angry as can be that the school system is failing many students to include a great deal of minority students. This is probably why I am so adamant that students concentrate on academics instead of primarily football. Academics is the only real key to success. The more academics the better the success. And, I am including skilled trades as academics.
    6 points
  15. And I'm guessing the schedule was finalized even before half of the Hallandale defense transferred over to Central.
    6 points
  16. Madison county is right down the road.
    6 points
  17. Madison County will win 1A. Jesse told me.
    6 points
  18. Perspective

    New District's

    Madison County may have asked the FHSAA to wait a few more weeks so they could move a few more students over to the neighboring charter school and keep their student population under the dividing line between 1A and 2A.
    6 points
  19. Hope everyone on this board has a happy, safe, and Merry Christmas. As we come to the end of this challenging year, there is one day where we can all come together as families and enjoy company, gifts, good food, and a little bit of wine. God Bless.
    6 points
  20. badbird

    Did Madison Co.????

    Also easy to be a fan of Madison with 800 students playing vs teams with 200 students.
    6 points
  21. Lets Take a Moment To Remember an Amazing man Jesse Jesse passed away December 4th at 6405 SE 210 Terrace, Hawthorne, FL 32640 at the young age of 28 months due to a tragic hornet sting causing a severe reaction which later developed into motor aphasia. His funeral service will be held at 403 Stadium Dr, Tallahassee, FL 32304 12/17 @ 7p followed by an internment at 2649 US-90, Madison, FL 32340. Jesse was born not too long ago on May 24, 2019 amongst this forum. He gained a reputation from all of us being the "Madison Boy" and had a successful career in instigating and generating traction with his posts and reply's. One of his most memorable moments in the community was his quip on "Donut high school", next to all of the times he said that Madison was on it's way to becoming a national powerhouse and blowing out IMG. He will be missed deeply by his friends, family, and all who knew him. May his content count rest peacefully at 523.
    6 points
  22. The last 3-4 minutes of that game will go down in history, unreal. I'm short on time, so can't go into great detail. But, let's just cover the last two plays: Bloomingdale, down 33-30, has a single-digit number of seconds remaining. QB scrambles, hits a big pass down to the ~4 yard-line with a second left. B-dale lines up to kick the game tying FG. Tech jumps offsides. Ball goes to the 2. B-Dale suddenly shifts into a swinging gate-type formation. Direct snaps it to an upback, who plunges over for the walk-off, game-winning TD! Wow!
    6 points
  23. It ain't in Madison County, that's for sure.
    6 points
  24. And the update is done!
    6 points
  25. In the 13 years of coaching the best D-line I ever had was about... DE - 6'0" 200lbs NT - 6'1" 262lbs DE - 6'1" 210lbs We ran a 3-4 and slanted the DL. So we didn't necessarily have to be as big. And we played 8A football. Three of the teams in our district made it to the state finals at some point. (Miramar, Flanagan, Cypress Bay) Both DE's had back-to-back double-digit seasons for sacks. The NT signed with Western Illinois (1AA). One year we had the #1 defense in the entire county. The 2 DE's were absolutely relentless and very polished technicians. I've coached Corners who signed with P5 teams. But one of the best HIGH SCHOOL CB's I ever coached was a (maybe) 5'7" 150lb kid who was gonna quit football and focus on lacrosse until he met me. Ultra competitive kid. Straight dawg. One of the toughest kids I've ever coached. I was told by the HC that he was "too small" and "got bombed all the time last season". I got there, installed a different scheme, the kid went from being an afterthought to finishing his Senior season with 8 interceptions. (and he dropped at least 3) In the arguably the toughest 8A district in the state at that time. I was told NOT to put this kid out there. He turned out to be our best cover guy. I actually used his LOOKS to bait OC's into throwing his way cause I knew he'd likely pick it off. https://www.hudl.com/video/3/3116944/5721c0b590eead5d90c4cdc7 Point I'm trying to make is, you can always find a spot for a kid if he's high motor, high effort. I don't give a damn if he's only 6'0" 230lbs. The mistake some HS coaches make is that they act like they're fielding a team to win COLLEGE games. Your job is to win HIGH SCHOOL games. And quite frankly, some of the best HIGH SCHOOL players aren't the most physically gifted. Now, you may not win a state title with a roster full of kids like that, cause at some point you'll run into a team like STA and their overall team talent will overwhelm you. But, having a team with a couple guys like that is always valuable IMO. You can win a lot of games with kids like that.
    6 points
  26. My garbage collection switched from Mondays and Thursdays to Tuesday and Fridays. Other than that, my schedule is pretty much the same.
    6 points
  27. Miami Killian Cougars is 3-0 1. 20-13 Against Miramar 2. 35-27 Against Miami Norland 3. 35-21 Against Miami Palmetto
    5 points
  28. Shock of all shocks, the head coach for Bishop Sycamore apparently was fired (or resigned) today. Has anyone else noticed the appropriateness of the team's initials? B.S.
    5 points
  29. I’m organizing a Pick’em Contest for the 2021 season. My plan is to play for 11 weeks (Week of August 27 – Week of November 5). Scoring: Each week, there will be 10 games to pick. You will pick the winners and assign a confidence rating for every game. Your most confident pick is give the 10 point spot. The next most confident pick is for 9 points and all the way down to your least confident pick for 1 point. A perfect week will get you 55 points. I will track points throughout the season by username. For example: 10: Team A over Team B 9: Team F over Team E 8: Team D over Team C etc. Season Long Prizes: For now, bragging rights. Depending on how popular this endeavor ends up, I may throw a couple gift cards as prizes. Picks: Games will be posted by 5:00 PM on Monday. I will do my best to incorporate some lesser known match-ups as well as try to cover the entire state. Picks will be due by 7:00 PM on Friday. Games that are cancelled/postponed will result in a shortened schedule for the week. Week 1 Picks are due by 7:00 PM on Friday Cardinal Gibbons (Ft. Lauderdale) at Venice Ponte Vedra at Nease (Ponte Vedra) Bishop Moore (Orlando) at Edgewater (Orlando) Bloomingdale (Valrico) at Gaither (Tampa) Madison County (Madison) at Valdosta (Valdosta, GA) St. Frances Academy (Baltimore, MD) at St. Thomas Aquinas (Ft. Lauderdale, FL) Miami Edison at Deerfield Beach Cocoa at Vero Beach Raines (Jacksonville) at Trinity Christian Academy (Jacksonville) Florida State University (Tallahassee) at Godby (Tallahassee)
    5 points
  30. 112 is average intelligence and almost above average. Lots of people on this board would be happy with a 112 IQ. Mainly the band wagon fan from up North that loves the team that plays in the smallest class with the most students and then talks sh*t about other programs and calls them trash. I won't mention any names.
    5 points
  31. Having said that, they put up 34 points on a good Venice defense! They may not b “loaded”, but they gotta good QB & receivers. Defense was smaller than usual. NW was in the game with 6 minutes to go. They’re biggest problem might b a lack of leadership. They had no “fire” the entire game. Don’t sell em out, by any means!
    5 points
  32. Are they upset with the program or are they just opportunists that will transfer to any school as long as they are the center of attention? Self gratification these days trumps everything else. I'm really surprised, or maybe not surprised at all, that parents are knowingly approving of this behavior. When I was in high school during the Napoleon campaign, the only transferring there was if and when the family moved to a new city or state, which was usually rare. The teams in those days had such comradery and esprit de corps. When a team was good it was good because of local coaching and hard work by the players. Not because of groups of mercenaries that acquired the school's gridiron in the dead of night. I know that there are fans, even on this forum, and supporters of schools that accept an unprecedented amount of transferring and even recruiting to make their football team winners. You cheer when your team runs the gamut every Friday night and when they go undefeated and deep into the playoffs or even to the championship. Stop for a minute to contemplate what would your team be like if they did not accept predatory players. What would they be like if the team consisted of players local only to the school district? Then decide whether your current team, with its group of transfers, truly deserves the praise it gets from mowing down every opponent on the way to the finals. This analysis does not pertain to all schools that happen to be exceptional in football. Only the schools that find it expedient to load up their teams with the best players they can find in order to win most if not all of the time. High school football is not College or NFL football where this stuff goes on routinely and has a purpose to it. 14-17 year old's are not college or NFL landscapes. Their main purpose is to educate and formulate young minds in academics and physical attributes and not to teach how to manipulate the system primarily for self gain only.
    5 points
  33. In all seriousness. This is how the scheduling process “appears” to be set up with Maxpreps. It appears that each school has designated individual(s) that have access to MaxPreps scheduling web pages. That means over 550 people can input Florida schedules and schedule changes. It doesn’t take Einstein to figure out that this can lead to nothing but disaster and inaccuracies. There needs to be a single source of input who has the capability to audit for accuracy before schedules are entered. This will ensure errors and conflicts are identified and resolved prior to entering the schedules into the site. Again….only 1 input source. And yes, I want the job.
    5 points
  34. There are a few Central Florida teams that will have something to say about that. We will see how it plays out.
    5 points
  35. DarterBlue2

    Madison county

    Jesse, I don't mean to be an ass, but frankly, I think you could benefit from taking some courses in the use of English. Aside from making you look more intelligent, it may actually make you more intelligent as your mind will benefit from the increased rigor deployed in the expression of your thoughts. I fear that the above will fall on deaf ears, but it was expressed with the best of intentions.
    5 points
  36. Here is some friendly advice my boy, My Glades Central Raiders hasn't been the same 2011. Ive Watch my team destroyed by the same team (Booker T) 5 years in a row, have to deal with community full of over the top critics that expect us to be a top 10 team in the state every year, and seen coaches come and go more than you'll see in a lifetime. I never turned my back on my them neither should you. Look at my boy Dillard lol. He bragged about his panthers no matter what win or lose. Look at him and his boys now complete turn around. Stay home and stay humble my friend.
    5 points
  37. Give them credit; despite the pounding they took in the title game, they have scheduled tough. That is how you get better.
    5 points
  38. *record scratch noise* Do my eyes deceive me? Did you just admit Madison County very well may lose a game this season? An absolute scandal!
    5 points
  39. So as we are wrapping up preseason matchups & going into the off season where a lot can change. But if I could give my VERY FIRST “FLORIDA TOP 20 PRESEASON RANKINGS” on what I believe to be RiGHT NOW!, it Would look like this. Feel free to critique & add your opinions down below, I welcome it. @ColumbiaHighFan2017class @KeemD321 @VeniceIndiansFootball @561_Fan @badbird @MC Rockets @DarterBlue2 #1. ST THOMAS #2. MIAMI CENTRAL #3. AMERICAN HERITAGE #4. MIAMI NORTHWESTERN #5. CARDINAL GIBBONS #6. SEMINOLE #7 TCA #8 JONES #9 EDGEWATER 10. VENICE (11-20) #11 DILLARD #12 COLUMBUS #13 JESUIT #14 DEERFIELD BEACH 15 NICEVILLE 16. COCOA 17. BLOOMING-DALE 18. CHAMINADE 19. TRU PREP 20. BERKLEY PREP.
    5 points
  40. Orlando City Soccer Stadium is the ideal location for state championship games: centrally located in the middle of the state, easy access by two major highways; plenty of parking. lots of hotels and other entertainment and dining venues to give people other things to do while waiting to attend games, and it's a new stadium with a capacity of about 20,000: not too big for HS championship games.
    5 points
  41. DarterBlue2

    The Virus

    So, some guardedly good news on my brother in law. He has been transferred to a rehab facility after testing thrice negative for the virus. While sick, he did suffer a mini-stroke. Hence, the rehab. But as of today, the worst may have passed. When he completes the rehab, he has a standing invitation to come down to Central Florida for a month or two to complete his healing.
    5 points
  42. nolebull813

    Madison county

    Coach Coe would disavow your behavior. If Madison was in 3A or 4A where they belong, you wouldn’t exist as a poster. You were spawned by the FHSAA allowing them to play in 1A. Lol. You are a mirage.
    5 points
  43. Last night, I watched American Heritage Plantation play Chaminade-Madonna. According to their rosters on Maxpreps, below is a breakdown of their starting O-lines. CM's O-Line 6'1" 280 Senior 6'2" 320 Junior 6'4" 300 Senior 6'5" 300 Sophomore 6'6" 300 Sophomore CM also had a 6'2" 270-pound junior playing fullback. AHP's O-Line 6'1" 280 Senior 6'1" 285 Senior 6'2" 315 Sophomore 6'4" 325 Senior 6'6" 295 Junior Despite the enormity of CM's line and a HUGE blocking back, one of the top-rated rb's in the state or possibly the country could do nothing against AHP's athletic D(save one play) and got caught behind the LOS numerous times. What's wrong with this picture? I think a problem is that these OL are holding way too much weight and/or don't know how to use their weight effectively. There is a reason FL's production of top-tier offensive linemen lags disproportionately behind our production of skill players, and last night's game was a good example. On one play I remember CM's 320-pound junior lineman trying to pull and this "tiny" AHP D-lineman took him out so easily and put the big young man off balance. Even if he had not been touched, there is no way he could have helped with that play because he was so slow. It was a bit shocking to see a "small" school with the line the size of CM's, especially when one considers that 3 of them were underclassmen. Sophomore linemen weighing 300 or more pounds? Where are we going folks? Is the future 350-pound hs O-linemen? When a 15/16 year old is already 300+ pounds, how much room does he have to grow into his frame? I mean, is he going to be 400 pounds as a senior in college? These kids would be so much more effective down at 250-275 pounds.15-20 years ago, , that's we typically saw, and those O-lineman could pull. Today, many of these 300-pound lineman I see in FL cannot move effectively enough to handle an athletic DL like we see on many of the top-ranked teams. Sure, a huge line on a 3A team is going to bully a lot of small school D's. But it is a completely different ball game when they face an elite D like either of those teams last night displayed. IMO, it is greed. People want that "college size" now, rather than let the kids grow into their frames. I guess the justification is that magical college scholarship that awaits. What coaches and parents do not realize is that what they are doing to these teenagers can have long-term impacts on their health, especially kids of an ethnic background that predisposes them to heart disease, diabetes, etc. This is not me talking, folks. I have had this discussion with my cardiologist, who happens to be a big football fan. "Aw, he'll lean up in college." The damage can already be done from a health perspective. All in the name of winning and/or a college scholarship. I remember reading an article about NFL linemen who struggle with their weight after their careers. Their metabolism gets used to holding all that weight and does not like giving it up. Not too long ago, a lineman might spend 5-10 years out of life at 300 pounds in his career (while in the NFL). Now we have kids who, if they have an NFL career, could be spending 15-20 years (hs, college and pros) at 300 or more pounds. Doesn't make a difference? How about the difference between smoking 5 versus 20 years? Time of health-risk exposure clearly raises the odds of long-term consequences. How difficult will it be for someone whose body has been at 300 pounds for 20 years to live the rest of their life at 225? I would imagine very difficult, except for someone who is extremely disciplined concerning diet and continuing to work out. I am not saying we should go back to the dinosaur days of 175-pound linemen. It's all about moderation. Some coaches are drinking the Kool Aid that they need a 300-pound line to win a state title. And they are neglecting to educate these kids and parents about the risk involved for some kids to maintain such a weight. I speak from personal experience on this topic. Back in college, I had the metabolism that allowed me to hold a lot of weight and still have abs. I kidded myself thinking because I could see my abs I was healthy. My blood tests told a different story...revealing major issues with my heart. I learned the hard way that the "outside" doesn't always tell what is going on inside our bodies.
    5 points
  44. Northwestern has been practicing all summer so no reason not to opt in. I'm sure they are ready to play
    5 points
  45. I had to look it up. Madison County is a county located in the north central portion of the state of Florida, and borders the state of Georgia to the north. You weren't talking about the football poll, were you?
    5 points
  46. badbird

    SFHSAA being created ?

    If all teams are not in the Fhsaa then there is no true state championship series. Do you even read before you post Madison is the best ever and will win every game they play by 100 points or is that your response to every thing.
    5 points
  47. You must not know Coach Peacock. A lot of Venice fans do not like the guy; he is known for being very stubborn and arrogant. Venice’s staff never planned on reciprocating as far as a trip to Cocoa went. They were supposed to play Venice again last year, in Powell-Davis for a second straight trip, before it fell through due to the pandemic. That’s why I don’t like having 8 or 9 home games, it makes a team look like they never travel to play good competition and have to stay home to keep unfair advantages within arms’ reach.
    4 points
  48. It is my most sincere hope, that one day, Jesse will join Floridatech in “banned land”!
    4 points
  49. @HornetFan this is for you! By far the majority of the top games this coming week or in the Orlando area. I got this off of a list assuming that these games haven’t been changed around or canceled. Wekiva vs Jones Osceola vs Edgewater West Orange vs Apopka Seminole vs Flagler Palm Coast
    4 points
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